Padre, get yourself a pair of Amperex pinch waist d getter from the 50's and smile all day long. Either holland/usa/or even the 6dj8. Yes, I use them, and in fact collect them, but IMHO these are the BEST you can get fro musicality, extension, bass, midrange magic.
Check out Nicksgem10s 1 December 2004 thread. There have been several posts in response to this, that latest on 23 Feb 2005. If you can't find it, type "DK Designs" into search.
BTW - I have a new DK - too early to tell you much other than I found the CCa tubes to be sweet as well.
If you have not tried Siemens E88CC's, for goodness sake please do so! I went from having an ad up selling this amp to where I wouldn't sell it right now if I made 10%. OK that's a lie. . but I'd buy another if I made 10%. LOL!
I just recently got a CryoValved CV2492 Mullard and with this tube I can honestly say that I have never heard a better amplifier in my entire life. The most stunning change over the stock tubes is that now images float in a huge 3D soundstage with a velvety smooth background and long decay's just like real instruments. Very plush soundstage and eerie like presence on all recordings. You have got to try these tubes!
Procalc, how much did u pay for the CryoValved CV2492 Mullard? I see a matched pair going for $330 at Tubbedepot!!! Yikes! Anything more affordable out there? How much are Siemens E88CC and CCa?
Anyone using this integrated with the Hyperion 938 speakers? I have them and am thinking about buying DK.
Yes, the CryoValved Mullards were ridiculously expensive. But according to DK these tubes will last at least 10 years in their amp and so considering the performance that this amplifier is capable of, I think it is a worth while investment. I think that it is important to think of the DK amp as a much more expensive high-end contender then its $3000 price would suggest, and then a $300 investment in tubes makes sense.
I have not compared the CryoValved CV2492 to a regular CV2492, but I suspect that they are probably really close and the regular CV2492 goes for about $160 per pair.
Procalc, thanks. I know Mullards are great for midrange and 3D imaging, but they are not known for frequency extension. The Seimens CCa or E88CCs is better known for that. How is the CryoValved CV2492 in that regard?
10 years on these tubes seems like a real stretch. Unless you're turning the amp on only when you listen (and doing that infrequently), it seems highly unlikely that tubes would last for 10 years. If left on 24x7, I would think you'd be replacing them every year.
Is there something unique about the CyroValved Mullards or about the DK amp that would allow such a long tube life? Any insight is greatly appreciated.
According to DK Design Group the 6922s will last 10 years with normal use. Normal use is probably defined as listening 2 - 3 hours every day. I had an Audio Research pre-amp with 6922s a few years ago (can't remember which model) and I never replaced the tubes in the 5 years that I owned it.
According to TubeDepot the Cryo Mullard will last longer then other tubes. This could of course be a bunch of baloney. I don't know why freezing a tube will make it sound better and last longer, but they swear by it.
In any case if these tubes last me 10 years or even 5 years, I will definitely get my moneys worth. Did I mention how amazing this thing sounds?
FYI: I just listed my brand new CV-2492's at dramatically less than $160 just to blow them out. Check it out. . .
Where do you find enough Amperex pinch waist d getter from the 50's that will allow you to collect them? C'mon share your secret. ;-)
Oldpet, I spent hundreds of hours obsessed, and waisting my life. Calling around the world, and spending $$$$$. I was frickin nutz!!!!
Mdconnelly-with the DK, the tubes stay so cool, I can run the amp for 48 hours, and they still stay cool to the touch. I betcha they will never burn out at that pace, at least, not in your lifetime.
Seems as though you've had a change of heart. Best to you. :-)
Paul, a change in what way?