Distortion mystery -- MC cart mistracking? / transformer / head amp input saturation??


Could use some input from the experienced high end record spinners here....

Context: VPI Classic 3/JMW 10.5 metal arm (damped w oil)/ZYX R100H --> Audio Note ANS2 xformer (low gain setting) --> Jasmine/Mockingbird modded LP2.5 DU active phono stage on MM 47kohms setting... anti skate off.

Recently switched cartridge over from my Audio Technica ART 9 cart to this ZYX R100H to check it out (bought ’low hours’ from a well reputed A-gonner). On some records, am hearing an occasional distortion in the vocals and mid-upper piano range... usually on transients of increasing volume. I first thought it is mostly at the 1st half of the record... but it seems like it happens throughout the sides of records where it happens (...I know the VPI jig sets minimum tracking error at end of sides). Seems to happen on records that play a little ’louder’... as opposed to audiophile records where volume levels are lower.

Checked ZYX alignment using the VPI jig couple times... am right on. Tracking at 1.9 grams, VTA level. Azimuth good via the balance beam pole on headshell. Tried different tracking forces - up to 2.1 grams, raised and lowered VTA - still distorts. Using Zerostat/CF brush on record, and Zerodust on the cart tip. Record washed with Okki Nokki. Very good hygiene I think.

As an experiment, I removed the AN transformer, and ran the Jasmine in MC mode at 100 ohms loading, and the distortion seems to have lessened greatly. Could the AN transformer be overloading the MM input at the phono stage? But then why just distortion on transients?? Many other loud passages do not distort.

By the way, I have no such trouble in 200-300 hrs with the ART 9 cartridge... just pure musi, clean and gorgeous... just hearing this with the ZYX.

Thoughts/comments/ideas??

Thanks in advance...








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Showing 2 responses by almarg

Jjss49, yes, that could very well be a contributing factor to the issue, as 5 cm/sec and 3.54 cm/sec differ by 3 db, **if** the two numbers are defined on a consistent basis.

However that discrepancy, which is commonly seen when comparing cartridge specs, is somewhat ambiguous. In part because the amplitude of a sine wave can be defined on either a peak basis (the maximum amplitude it reaches during any part of each cycle) or on an RMS basis (its amplitude as computed on a root-mean-square basis, which may be thought of as a kind of average value). And for a sine wave 5 cm/sec peak equals 3.54 cm/sec RMS.

For further discussion of this see the posts in the second half of this thread, beginning with the posts dated 7-4-2012.

Regards,
-- Al

Dover 4-9-2017
What do you mean by "low gain setting".
The ANS2 has 2 IMPEDANCE settings - L and H.
L is for ultra low internal impedance cartridges and has HIGHER gain.
H is for higher impedance cartridges and has LOWER gain.
+1. Excellent point by Dover.

Also, according to its manual there are two versions of the AN-S2 transformer. The AN-S2/L, which has an input impedance switchable between 3 and 12 ohms, and the AN-S2/H, which has an input impedance switchable between 15 and 60 ohms. Which version is yours?

According to my calculations, and assuming a 47K load on the transformer’s output (as you indicated), the gains of the transformer are as follows:

AN-S2/L at 3 ohms: 42 db
AN-S2/L at 12 ohms: 36 db

AN-S2/H at 15 ohms: 35 db
AN-S2/H at 60 ohms: 29 db

Most of those numbers are MUCH too high for use with a 0.48 mv cartridge. A gain of 20 db would correspond to a voltage multiplication of 10x, which would raise the output of a 0.48 mv cartridge to 4.8 mv, which would be just right for a MM input.

If you have the H version of the transformer the high impedance (60 ohm) setting **might** be ok, depending on the overload margin of your phono stage.
Jjss49 4-8-2017
As an experiment, I removed the AN transformer, and ran the Jasmine in MC mode at 100 ohms loading, and the distortion seems to have lessened greatly. Could the AN transformer be overloading the MM input at the phono stage? But then why just distortion on transients?? Many other loud passages do not distort.
Sharp transients have substantial high frequency content. RIAA equalization that is present on a recording boosts high frequencies substantially (the boost gradually increasing to about 20 db, or a factor of 10 in voltage, at 20 kHz relative to 1 kHz), while reducing low frequencies substantially (the reduction gradually increasing to about 20 db at 20 Hz, relative to 1 kHz). The opposite equalization occurs in the phono stage during playback. It is therefore quite conceivable that overload distortion is occurring in phono stage circuitry that is "ahead of" its RIAA equalization circuitry, that will only occur as a result of the high frequency content of transients. While not occurring on lower frequencies even though they may be at considerably higher volumes.

As to why this happens with the ZYX but not with the ART9 (which has a similar output rating of 0.5 mv), perhaps the frequency response of the ZYX in the treble region rises a bit, relative to the response of the ART9. Or perhaps the output ratings of the two cartridges are based on somewhat different test conditions (which is not uncommon).

Hope that helps. Regards,
-- Al