Complete newbie needing guidance/purchase advice


Hi folks-

First of all, let me apologize in advance for a lengthy post. I'm a brand new forum member after recently being introduced to this site by an acquaintance who heard I was looking for sound advice... As my thread title states, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to the audiophile world, but I really want to start building a system and learn something in the process. A little background on me: I've been making a living as a recording artist and studio musician for almost 20 years, but my career choice as a music-maker has somehow ironically detached me from the simple pleasure of just sitting and _listening_ to music for the sheer enjoyment of it. My wife and I are currently in the process of remodeling our bonus room into a media room, and one of my objectives is to at the very least turn it into a space where I can do some critical listening.

I currently don't have anything decent... Just some old Bose bookshelf speakers and a Yamaha surround receiver. The closest thing to 'something decent' that I own are a pair of Etymotic ER-4S headphones coupled with a Headroom headphone amplifier.

The big limiting factor is my budget. Given that fact, maybe I have no business posting here... I will probably need to build this piece-by-piece over time, so I'm content with having to stretch the process out. I'm not concerned with having to have the 'best' of anything; I would just really like to make listening to music an engaging and emotional experience for me like it was for me many years ago.

Would a speaker purchase be a good place to start? I was perusing the Audiogon classifieds today and saw that there is actually a pair of DK Designs LSA-2's for sale local to me. The asking price is at the top of my speaker budget, a little over a grand, which I realize is probably 'chump change' in the audiophile world. However, I've read some reviews and they seem mostly positive. Would be super-convenient to be able to find something nice that was used and local, but as I said before, I'm completely new to this. Another related question: Is it better to go with floor-standing speakers, or can decent sound also be accomplished with bookshelf speakers combined with a subwoofer?

Also, what are the other 'basic' components that would need to be purchased? The only other thing I know I'd love to have would be a decent turntable; I'd love to be able to go and purchase some of my favorite classic albums to listen to once again. Do I need a separate preamp and power amp combination? Are there any 'receivers' that do a decent job of covering both tasks?

Any other feedback or direction you experts could throw my way would be greatly appreciated... Thanks in advance!
renaissanceman9

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Just glancing at the sales feedback of those who have contributed to this thread seems to suggest that the assertion that "most people do no enjoy the selling process so do not" might be an overstatement, especially amongst those that have been active on Audiogon longer.
From what's currently available here on Audigogon, this should get you started:

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1327992457&/Vandersteen-2Ce-black-ash-+-ba

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1328909001&/McCormack-DNA-1-Standard

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?preatran&1328700775&/Conrad-Johnson-PF-2L-Line-Stag

Comes in without going over budget, but doesn't include source(s) (you can get by with what you've got for a little while), phono stage, cables (used Goertz MI 2's speaker cables can be found cheap and should work great, do use separate runs for bi-wiring, if not right away, then in the future) interconnects (many to choose from), or a rack.
These are amongst the best values in audio, proven separately to stand the test of time, and more importantly synergistically together, and still offer the flexibility to upgrade any of the pieces as deals might appear.
You might need to sit back another 6" or so to really make the speakers sing.
No relation to any of the sellers, buyer beware, but, while Audiogoners may not always agree, they do tend to be an honest crew.
Caution; vinyl can be rewarding, but can start to get expensive.
Speakers are the most important choice to make. With that said, please keep in mind that speakers might perform quite differently in different rooms and/or with different amplification. I would suggest choosing speakers that will perform appropriately in your given room, and with the amplification that appropriately suits that individual speaker in your room, not what you have on hand. Building a system with your current and potential budget, around your current receiver is bound to cause a needlessly frustrating bottle neck.
There has been a lot of conflicting advice given, welcome to the hobby!. None of it is really wrong. IMHO, your correct in deciding upon speakers first. As I've already suggested, I think that one should think in terms of speakers with amplification. Separates will offer you more choices and allow you to make changes easier as you get a better feel for what direction you might want to pursue in the future. If you choose quality used products, you can try them in your home, and keep them if you like them or sell them if you don't, for pretty much what you paid for them, with little penalty other than perhaps shipping costs. As such, while I respect the opposing position, I see little reason to hold off buying key components and upgrading secondary components as your budget allows. Why be without music and the learning experience in the mean time? The key is to buy gear that has stood the test of time and retains it's value. Needless to say, and though there might be some novelty exceptions, poor sounding gear doesn't usually make the list. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't take advantage of opportunities to listen to other systems. Just try to keep them in context of systems that will be at there best within your budget (now and into the realistic short term future), and your room.
Schubert, carefully chosen used components retain much of their value for a fair amount of time. Such components can often be resold for close to their purchase price, perhaps sans shipping costs. Heck, sometimes one can actually turn a profit. All the money spent is not necessarily completely lost "..FOREVER".