CAT JL-2 Signature VS. Jadis JA80


I will soon be making a choice for a new amp to drive my Vandersteen 5A. I use the AA capitole 2 for CD and a Basis
2500/Vector w/ a Koetsu rosewood standard cart and also have a Benz ruby3. The linestage is a FS pres delx 2 and phono stage is a Lamm LP2 delx. Cables are KS emotion and Power cords are KS emotion and Shuntata anaconda VX. I will be replacing a pair of quicksilver V4 s which may stay after the purchase as a cooler running alternative to the CAT for the summer months.My priorities are as follows , probably not in any particular order. I would hope to serve them all well for the 17- 20 k price tag. I want to drive the 87 Db Vandys with a weight, ease, and authority with power to spare ( I know this certainly to be a strength of the CAT but the Jadis probably is no slouch here either). I am looking for the detail , but also want to fill the room with air and dimensionality. I do not necessarily have to have the detail of say a pair of horn or ceramic drivers driven by OTLs. I would like to ad either amp to the system and have it lean (ever so slightly)toward the warm side letting me relax, enjoy,and retire from evaluating. I listen to primarily Jazz and rock with a little mix of everything.
I have heard the Jadis , but in a totally different setup.
I soon have arrangements to hear the Cat,also not in my system. I am leaning CAT, but want to make sure it does not lean on the cooler sounding side of tube amps.As always, thanks all your help.
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Showing 1 response by rcprince

While I'm a great admirer of the Jadis JA80s (having owned them for over 10 years), I think they may be a little warmer than you're looking for. They roll the highs noticeably, so they will not be as detailed as the CAT. Their other weakness, in the deepest bass (they can be slow and overly ripe down there, though I think they are very good from the midbass up), is not a problem with you because the Vandys handle the bass on their own. I find the Jadis midrange to be among the best out there, and it is a very natural, as opposed to electronic, sounding amplifier. I would say that it probably favors classical and jazz over rock, as it will not sound as crisp on some transients (drums, guitars) as other amps I've heard. It is, however, one of the few amps around that does let you forget the equipment and listen to the music.

Can't comment on the JL-2. I heard an earlier version of the JL-1 and found it perhaps just a little lean for my taste, but otherwise a superb amp. My understanding is that the more recent versions of the CAT amps are better than the ones I heard. You really need to hear it, but I am certain it will be impressive, just don't know if it has the warmth you say you're looking for. The other amp I'd suggest you listen to and consider in your price range, if you can hear it, would be a used Lamm ML-1 or 1.1, which is what has replaced the Jadis in my system. It has the great midrange of the Jadis but a lot more upper frequency extension (but still a little on the warm side) and better dynamic performance and apparent "speed" than the Jadis, while still retaining the naturalness I so liked about the Jadis.

All of these amps are thoroughbreds and refined, though each has a character that will make it distinctive. I think when you hear them all on revealing speakers you'll have a good idea which one best suits your taste; I'd think the Vandys will accurately convey that character. Remember, of course, to factor out the bass performance because of the Vandys' powered woofers.