Cable manufacturers?


How many cable companies actually manufacture their own cable? 

Perhaps Mogami, Belden, Canare and a few others. I am willing to bet most cable companies do not manufacture their own cable, but simply buy cable, throw on some techflex or other custom jacketing, and do nice terminations. 

Anyone have any any actual Information? 
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I don’t think it is possible to make 8 9’s copper or 8 9’s purity in anything.

But I’m ready to be wrong about that.

the OCC processes, is, IIRC... used for making the physically longest known and 'commercially realized' single crystals in copper wire.

Which country has the best sounding copper is probably debatable.

Considering the exactness of the process for OCC (Ohno Continuous Cast)(Dr. Atsumi Ohno) , and it’s origins in Japan, it might be that Japan has the best sounding copper. Not all OCC copper is created equal.
@ hasmarto,


IIRC there are 6? places that make OCC using the hardware. I don't know how many are 'approved', in any case. My guess was and is an off the cuff guess on qualities, as I stopped investigating wire, when I stumbled into the understanding that conducting a simile of a plasma arc strike through the equivalent of a conductive heavy gas, was far more true to the signal. As the signal and conductor could be as they should, which is 'as one', in the dynamic flow domain, which is where impedance becomes a problem and consideration. The impedance issue remains a problem with solid wire and ceases to be as big of a problem in a conductive molecular-level fluid. In solid lattice structure it is a problem in the delta of the transient domain, which is critical to the ear. In a fluid conductor, a true fluid, this is where the problem area and issue --- least exists. Not as conductive as a lattice structure copper or silver... but the problem area that concerns the ear - is virtually gone. And a whole whack of other stuff going on....

On the subject of the wire...I'm referring to the "PC-OCC' as opposed to OCC, in case there is a difference in how it is labelled and sold, etc.Your response seems to be indicating there is possibly this difference, of OCC vs PC-OCC.
I’m describing a conductive fluid, with the ’fluid’ distinction being one of a true fluid, which is with ’free molecules’ as the main component. Not that of a fluid carrier with large chunks of material. That would not be a fluid.

If you want to know of a fluid that exhibits such mentioned behaviour, you can look at fluids that are off center in their pH, as that is one area where such happens. Battery acid, for one, or other similar fluids. Voltage differential enabling conductivity and whatnot. Ie, that one possible descriptor for neon gas is ’semiconductor’, or more correctly, ’diode’. but it may be possible to make a neon semiconductor, but is it worth the effort? How about mercury diodes? (mercury arc rectifiers)

There are no white papers as the sciences of such are well established. But only in gross terms, not in the specifics of what goes on at the electron orbital level. That component is not well established.

Some recent clues for the curious:

https://phys.org/news/2017-07-electron-orbitals-key-concept-high-temperature.html

 (I've been taken to task and attacked, ridiculed, etc.. over the past few years for using the term 'electron orbital alignment', as being a key component of what is going on in the fluid, regarding it's behaviour. Now emergent science says such. Again. Not the first time. No, not by a long shot... the science emerges in a parallel path and merges into a defined set of parameters. But first comes the exploration and the sometimes sheer violence of the detractors.)

https://phys.org/news/2017-06-propagating-density-fluctuations-superconducting-copper.html

https://phys.org/news/2017-07-scientists-electrons-vibrating-atoms.html

It is as the normal case in the human world, where we can engineer solutions using components we poorly understand. Ie, that we still don’t understand and are still learning new things about even -cement/concrete.

https://phys.org/news/2017-07-ancient-concrete-romans.html

The people doing the engineering will probably get to the area of understanding the given intricacies long before the theoretical searching and scientific labeling/descriptors. Ie, that the science is ’real’ long before it is put into the scientific record and engineering record. To not make entry into the lexicon being the only reality... as that behaviour is the ’future killing’ sin of dogma.

The people doing the engineering and experimentation in this specific case/scenario -- it’s pretty well just me. And this is, sadly, a commercial endeavor. So I’m into the idea of hinting, but people have to do their own work. If I was into brutal and uncaring commercialism, I’d not even stray into the idea of any form of sharing or hints. The downside is, I’m many times taken to task by people who don’t really think this through, and/or don’t have the backdrop to look into it. the people who do understand, rarely, if ever, comment. They desire the hassle and stress less than I. Perhaps they are smarter than I in the sense of seeking the easier path.

As for measurement anomalies, those are commonplace in the analysis of the conductive fluid in use in these cables - as done in the main laboratories of a major technical component manufacturer, and a major telecom.

The behaviour of wire and insulation, under a given transient load, is well known. And that the ear responds almost solely to transients, is also well known. And many more details.

One puts it all on the same table... and sorts through it...
Geoff:
Sure that is true. But some of us might want to be brundlefly, some day..

(I don’t ... but might accidentally push the odd person into the given pod while tripping on the activation switch)
Yes, the Chinese are pushing hard enough that the 'scientific advances for the gullible' that the us places in the public domain...  are no longer enough to cover up their black ops works, which have gone on for over 7 decades.

The article states that the Chinese are now ahead of the US. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Chinese are playing catch up and theft, at a minimum.

The official publicly stated amounts of recent  (past decade) money missing from pentagon coffers, which many presume have gone into black ops and technology....now sits at over 6 trillion US dollars.

It's not a case of the Chinese moving ahead of the US, it's a case of asking what the two-tier US technology system is hiding from the public.
That’s when we’ll launch the GTO into GSO. It will Judge the situation accordingly.