Best three way cross over?


I have noticed that the passive crossover (Capacitor) between my woofer and midrange speaker is responsible for a lot of muddying of my midrange. When I bypass it, the sound is much clearer and transparent, however then I have too much bass from my mid driver. I am curious as to what people have found is the purest sounding crossover network they have used for a three way speaker...particularly for the mid driver. I have not used an active or a digital crossover, would either of them work better (be more transparent)for me?
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This site http://www.sound.au.com/ has a very lengthy article on the merits of biamping/triamping loudspeakers using active crossovers. It also has a project on designing a very nice phase coherent 4th order linkwitz riley crossover. Marchandelec.com also has many electronic crossover kits. Once you opt of electronic equalization you'll need to adjust the gains on your individual amplifiers to smooth out the frequency response since your three drivers probably don't have the same efficiencies/sensitivities, and the passive network was designed to attenuate this. There was another thread here just a few days ago asking about electronic crossovers too--it might have some info to help. The electronic if done right will probably increase the performance. You won't lose power in the passive network-in many cases the equivalent of halving the amplifiers power, and intermodulation distortion can be reduced. Passive crossovers in three-way systems can become unpredictable at higher output levels because the temperature of the voice coil changes and therefore so does its electrical characteristics. It would help to state what speakers you have--PSB or Avalon Eidolons? Another thing is that the quality of parts in your passive network could possibly be better. With seperate amps you'll make full use of there effective damping to a given driver. But do contact the manufacturer of your speakers to find out just what they've done with the crossover--sometimes the crossover can be used to smooth the frequency response of the system even in a single drivers operating range--not just the crossover region, which may complicate things. I've been toying with biamping myself, but in the case of two way designs I'm still uncertain if its worth it. However, with a three way it many cases it is.
Ehider, in response to the zobels, are they ever used when a speaker is being driven with an electric crossover? And more specifically what do they do to improve performance? I've only seen them used with high capacitance speaker cables like Goertz to keep unstable amplifiers from oscillating (If memory serves). I'm just curious/asking since I don't now all that much about them. Its just that the disappointing aspect of passive networks is that the only way to smooth the frequency response of two drivers of different sensitivities (not uncommon) is to knock the more efficient driver down to that of the least efficient driver (unless you're sticking a horn on one the less efficient ones, not common). So technically using electronic equalization will allow the driver to perform at its full sensitivity and make the most effective use of the amplifiers power. A not uncommon padding of 3 db on a driver is the equvalent of needing an amplifier twice the power to reach the sound pressure level (compared to an active design all things being equal of sorts). I'm just dwelling on it now; I get a little teary-eyed sometimes when I see a 95db efficient driver built into a system that only carries a 90db system sensitivities--5 db just thrown away :( No, watts aren't that expensive (although they can be if you want them too) but.....if you have your heart set on some little 10watt class A amp 5 db's alot.