Svs sb 12 plus is for sale here on audiogon for $450 right now. I did quite a bit of research before buying one myself ($350 locally about a month ago) I'm loving it! Plays really low, loud and clean! It's a sealed box so it's fast and great for both music and movies! For the price, you can't beat it. It also integrates well with my front left and right speakers. In a different class than bic, and just better than sunfire, imo. Great customer service also!