I have a TD147 I purchased new in 1984 with TP 16 MK111 tone arm and TP63 Cartridge wand. I also have a AR-ES1 with a RB300 incognita wired arm which sounds great, but the Torens sounds just about as good to my ears. I don't see alot of TD147's mentioned, but mind seems very good. Good luck, Jim.