They never did open up on my system in the way that stranded designs have done for me. I passed them back to my friend that has quads. He also is not thrilled with their soundstage and hf presentation. Desribes them as recessed. Much of this is very dependent on your speaker and amplifier. I use ss and dynamic speakers, he is using tubes and quads. Yet we both have the same basic conclusion upon listening after a few hundred hours burn in. I will try some Tara labs to see if another solid core copper cable acts the same way in my system. Zargon- isn't the volcano a solid core silver cable?