Are manufacturers having discussions removed from Audiogon if they turn negative?


I have mostly been taking part of this forum occasionally, and from a distance if you will.  I have to admit I don't really know the kind of things that can go on, disputes or disagreements that can occur.  I have occasionally done searches in this forum using the search function to only come upon a thread that has been removed, oddly enough.

I have seen some discussions, and taken part in some others that become somewhat of a debate on certain brands, and they have become critical in some instances.  Usually fans of the brand in question rush to the defence, and from what I've seen, a healthy discourse occurs, with back and forth and occasional posts removed.  I'm thinking of smaller internet direct manufacturers such as your Emotivas, Schiit Audio, Ascend Acoustics and the like.

What I'm wondering is, have such companies had negative discussions stopped or removed?  Has anyone been part of similar discussions in which moderators suddenly step in and either lock or completely remove a discussion?

213runnin

Showing 10 responses by cleeds

tonykay
I added my two cents about the Tekton thread yesterday, and the entire thread disappeared by the end of the day. The admins here probably don’t pull every negative thread, only when a particular product attracts an avalanche of well-deserved criticism.
A moderator posted in that thread yesterday that it was deleted by the OP, not the moderators. Whether the criticism of Tekton was well-deserved or not is a matter of some debate, hence the activity in that thread.
gdnrbob
My impression is that the mods remove threads when they become hostile or no longer remain on topic. Often times, they give a warning before deleting the discussion
That's what I've observed here.
kosst_amojan
I think guys showing up on the scene casting absurd doubt on legitimate complaints and issues is nothing more than bullying. I think that jazz should be dealt with harshly.
It's not at all clear that the claim raised in that thread was legitimate. Within the group's rules, everyone is free to post here, even if you think they "should be dealt with harshly."
elizabeth
I can add that individual post in certain ’commercially driven’ ie to sell that product threads, particularly the black goo and the magic bits of paper threads are being controlled by the folks who offer the gizmos for sale.
In practice, I think it's the moderators that control the threads. But they will delete off-topic posts, or deliberately argumentative posts, if alerted.
The posts removed for obscenities etc by the audiogon staff leave behind the empty spacer, the posts otherwise removed leave no trace.
Are you sure? I've never noticed that.
elizabeth
Never noticed?? Plenty of threads, particularly the 'why power cords, or interconnect' type threads have a lot of small blank spaces between remaining posts where the obscenities and personal insult type posts have been removed.
Oh yes, I've noticed that for sure. I thought you meant that some posts were deleted so as to leave no evidence. I'm sorry if I misunderstood you.
The off topic are not generally removed.. unless complained about AND the moderator agrees.
Yes, agreed.
...the Tekton thread ... vanished, I would guess it was done by the op of the thread.
That is what a moderator stated.
dill
It would be nice if the person that posted the original $12,000 Tekton, failure to ship thread, posted here when or if he ever received the speakers.
Given that the user had just joined Audiogon before creating that thread, that his few posts were confined to that thread, and that he then deleted his own thread (according to the moderators), it's not likely we'll be hearing from him again. This forum gets these "drive by" users every so often and their claims are often suspect, as in this instance.
elizabeth
To mention/ YES there ARE posts being deleted and LEAVE NO EVIDENCE ...
I haven't noticed this, but have no reason to doubt you. It seems very odd, and not a good practice on A-gon's part.
wolf_garcia4
Tekton, as is often the case with criticized manufacturers, missed a great opportunity to reply to the OP with a reasonable confession that they lost an order or somehow accidentally bungled the thing. An apology! How innovative!
It in't at all clear that the poster's complaint was valid. Perhaps that's why the OP deleted the thread. Perhaps that's why Tekton didn't apologize.
kosst_amojan
There’s no reason to doubt the OP’s veracity ...
It isn’t at all clear that the poster’s complaint was valid - it was just another post by an anonymous user. Perhaps that’s why the OP deleted the thread. Perhaps that’s why Tekton didn’t apologize.
I'd probably want a thread removed too if some ranting fool like me went on like I did ...
Exactly - you made my point. There can be good reasons to doubt the claims of a "ranting fool."
213runnin
Cleeds keeps repeating his chararcter assassination theory on any customer who complains ...
I have done no such thing, and clearly there have been too many issues for Tekton to be completely blameless. But neither to I accept every claim as unvarnished truth. There are almost always two sides to every story, and sometimes more.

Let’s remember that the OP himself deleted his own thread. It’s almost as though he’s retracted his claims. Oddly, a few continue to prosecute this case without any first-hand information.
It's surely good news if the OP is happy that progress is being made on his speakers. He deserves it.