Thanks for responses , I am now looking into buying a Classe CA-200 which should be around $1050 to $1200 in cost and about 350 watts at 4 ohms.I have previously had a pair of Totem model 1 speakers with a Classe CA-101 and it sounded great but I wanted a speaker that would go lower without a sub. Let me know if you think that the two would be a good match?