Aftermarket Fuses


Can I set the ground rules up front?? I hope so. There are two camps. One who can hear different audible reproduction using aftermarket fuses. The second camp can not justify in theory, or can not hear a difference in fuses. Fine. I respect both camps. Can we hold this discussion to those who can hear an audible difference in fuses?? Can we? If so, what is your choice in aftermarket fuses and describe, please, what you hear.
imgoodwithtools

Showing 16 responses by oregonpapa

If the Synergistic Research Blue Fuses are snake oil, would someone please bring me more snakes??

Thanks ...

Frank
^^^ So now that everything worth while has been invented, with nothing more to be gleaned from the fertile minds of Americans, can we now shut down the U.S. Patent Office? 

Tesla is turning over in his grave. 

Frank
wolf ...

Your criticism has been anything but "objective."  With your over the top, hyperbolic negativism, you would be a multi-billionaire not overnight. Nope, you'd be there in mere seconds.

Come on big boy ... buy 10,000 fifty cent fuses, paint them blue, put a price tag on them of $150 bucks, then just sit back and watch the big buck roll in.

What's holding you back?

Frank
^^^

Racketeers? Easy to make? Just a change in colors? Five bucks to make and then sell them for $150.00? Hey, if all of this is true, what's keeping you naysayers from entering the fuse market? Just think, you could all be multi-billionaires over night. 

Frank
pbnaudio ...

Hey ... !!! The site you provided is selling a five-pack of fuses for just under nine bucks. What’s up with these profiteering, capitalistic, piggish slugs? Haven’t they heard of "Economic Justice," or "Leveling the Playing Field?" How are "those who work for a living" going to afford fuses at over a dollar a pop?

You can do better, pbnaudio. There have been several members here on these sites who have sworn up and down that great fuses are available for twenty-cents that will do what the after market fuses will do ... and anyone who pays more is an utter fool.

Frank
pbnaqudio

Thanks for the fuse link. Hopefully, Wolf_Garcia, slaw and other naysayers will link onto it and make a fortune. Hey, considering the bulk discount if one were to buy a lot of 5000 fuses, paint them blue, then re-market them for $150 a pop, there’s almost a $750,000 profit to be made here. Come on naysayers jump on the snake oil bandwagon. Join the get rich conga line.

What’s holding you back????

Frank
imgoodwithtools ...

I think the ratio of those who can hear the difference in good aftermarket fuses and those who cannot are about 10,000 to 1.  

The REF-6 is an amazing piece. If the VTL is better, it must be super amazing too. Just think how it would sound with an SR Blue fuse in it ... or an Omega E Mat under it. 

I'm curious ... you say the VTL is better in the highs. What connotes "better" in your opinion? Is the overall clarity and realism better as well? If so, that's really saying something. 

Take care ...

Frank
shadorne sez ...

  • "Just a smidgen of ethics would hold most people back from actively promoting and helping others make money off of a scam. But obviously you wouldn’t understand what that is."

Now THAT’S gratitude for ya. Here I am trying to give you an avenue to become a multi-billionaire, and you puke out a personal attack. What’s up with that, shadorne?

By your own admission, there are ten-cent fuses available that sound just as good as the after market fuses. Member "pbnaqudio" has done extensive research scouting out a source for the basic tools ... the fuses and the coloring method ... and you respond with a personal attack? Boy, talk about a non-appreciative individual.

Come on, shadorne ... order the fuses in the 5000 discounted lot, color them purple, put a free ad on Craig’s List ... and let the big bucks roll in.

Was it you who was contemplating using "Total Contact" to tighten your sphincter? Obviously, based upon your last post, which was a personal attack on my ethics as a human being, you have tried the sphincter experiment. How’s it working out for you? Has it improved your social life around the bar scene lately?

Step up to the plate, shadorne. Buy the fuses, color them, run the ads, make billions, or forever be exposed as the phony that you and your inane posts really are.

Frank

^^^ Couldn't agree more. Same for a few other's who continue stirring the pot with nonsense and personal attacks. I know I sound like a broken record, but these few naysayers are destroyers of joy in the world. Imagine being married to one of them. 

Frank
imgoodwithtools ...

So, one of your main benchmarks is how well the system reproduces the piano, correct? Me too. I've always said, get the piano right, and everything else seems to fall into place. 

I highly, and sincerely recommend that you get involved with the Omega E Mats. Ask Fleischer what he heard at my place when it came to the piano with the E Mats installed. Its really something ... and with your present system, it would be fantastic. 

If you lived close enough, I'd love to have you over for a listen. 

Take care ...

Frank
On wolf_garcia, shadrone, slaw and a few other naysayers ...

They remind me of my brother. He's one of the biggest skeptics on the planet. Its a personality type where their biggest fear is being taken advantage of.

To them, everything is either a conspiracy, a scam, or something else nefariously designed to cheat them out of their hard earned money. They suspect everyone, including their doctors, their real estate agents, and anyone who pats them on the back. They have the persona of a "Mr. Full Charge." If they're not in control of a given situation, they feel out of control. 

Where most people have to like you before they trust you, these folks have to trust you before they like you. The biggest mistake a salesperson can make with these people is to try to glad-hand them. If you do, their first thought is ... "What is this guy trying to get out of me?"  you can see it almost immediately. Their eyes narrow, they cross their arms and legs and frown like frowns are going to leave the planet.

The best approach is to just let them be in charge ... let them lead. Let them think that everything is their idea. Let them tell you what's needed. If you tell them, they think you're lying. If they tell you, they know that THEY don't lie ... so all is okay. 

They make great cops ... and I'm not dissing cops here either. I have a LEO for a son in law, and my brother is a retired California Highway Patrolman. Both great guys. Both have a jaundiced eye and both can scope out the suspicious among us in a nano-second. Hell to deal with if you're a salesman or a proprietor of a business of any type though. To them, everyone is lying. Everything is a scam. Nothing is worth the asking price ... and you are not going to tell them jack ... they will tell YOU. 

They miss out on a lot of joy in life because of their suspicious nature. Sometimes, you just have to trust the other guy and believe that most people are honest and upright ... until they prove themselves otherwise.

Frank
^^^ Yellowstone? Wow! What a beautiful place. Lucky you ... :-)

John ... If you send me a PM with your full name and addy, I’ll send you something that will "complete" your audio system. No joke ...

I'll tell you what it is in a return PM.

Frank
The difference between a stock fuse, and an SR Blue fuse is dramatic. If anyone can't hear the difference, then I'd be questioning one of two things ... either the system, or the ears. Maybe both. 

Where would one go to buy "BMW tires?" 

Frank
Mitch sez:

  • Right out of the playbook. You might want to consider not questioning what others do or don't hear. 

Are you kidding, Mitch? You've been posting in these threads long enough. I'm assuming that you've read all of the responses, right? How many naysayers have told us what we can't hear, or that what we are hearing is nothing more than expectation bias? Hell man, they even tell us that when they haven't used the item at issue for themselves. 

Frank
Right now I'm "marching to my own drummer."

I'm listening to Peggy Lee singing "Fever" burned to a CD directly from the master tape.  For those familiar with the tune, there's a bass drum at the beginning that goes ... "You give me fever .. BOOM, BOOM ... fever all through the night ... BOOM, BOOM ...

That bass drum, as well as Peggy Lee's voice, is right there in the room. 

Frank
geoff sez ...

  • Who’s Peggy Lee?

That's okay Geoff ... at my age I know what its like losing memory cells. A lot of them. Don't worry, its not painful at all. Huh? What's not painful? What were we talking about? Peggy who???

Frank