Hotsauce, I cannot stand Rives rooms. I do, indeed, believe what I do. |
The crystal glasses would probably have to be on the walls. Height is very important. Why? I haven't a clue. |
I was impressed by the Acoustic resonators and was impressed. Then I heard the Synergistic Research ARTS. I bought them on the spot. |
Audioblazer, you are basically dealing with only five pieces with the SR ARTs, but again one has to experiment with placement, but not what metal is used. I bought the ARTs after hearing a demonstration of both the Acoustic Resonators and the then new ARTs.
I find the effects of the ARTs more substantial and critical to my listening joy, but I have not personally used the Acoustic Resonators.
I don't expect that an individual can hear a comparison between the two at a dealers, but that is all that I can really recommend. |
Dotsystem, I have a large room and little to no experience with a small one. I wish that I could always be really mindful of the fact that most of what I might post is of limited application to people with small rooms. I am now at my small summer home in Angel Fire NM. I really have no listening room here as our three bedrooms are all full of beds, etc. I have had to resort to Grado headphones and must say I just cannot get into them. |
Slipknot1, the music does not sound live. I have only heard two such rooms, however. |
Shadorne, Is this what you meant by "egg cups?" Initially, I thought this but decided you meant the cups you put soft boiled eggs in. Only they would have a very high resonant frequency such as the SR Arts and Acoustic Resonators. Of course, everything would depend on what that resonant frequency would be as well as what resonant frequency would contribute the most. Everything would be trial and error. |
Audioblazer, follow SR's basic setup first. Next play with the distance from the speaker wall of the base unit. It really is a bass unit. Pay attention to how tight your bass is. Mine is about 1 inch from the wall not counting the quarter round. It MUST be directly below the Vibratron. It must be above your tweeters and slight changes can have an effect, but since it is nailed up, this is somewhat troublesome.
The Satellites MUST be put up with Bluetac. Nothing else allows you to make the necessary changes and to have them up securely. The Gravitron must be centered and it is critical how high it is. Very critical! Play with this a lot; you will be shocked at its impact. The Magnetrons are curious. Start at the first reflection point at the height SR suggests. Move away from the speakers toward you until you find the right point. It is somewhat ambiguous. I have even found that I take them down for small groups. But doing so restricts the sweet spot but sounds more coherent.
I had many other resonant devices which are now out of the room. No more Brilliant Pebbles, although they used to give a modest improvement. No more Holographs, although SR actually recommends them for use with the ARTs. I find they really confuse my tuning the ARTs. I do use some Mpingo discs. I have two three Mpingo racks on the floor outside the speakers, which I can even hear when they are turned away from being aligned parallel to the side walls. Only they add something, however. |
Audioblazer, I will be most interested in what you hear. |
Audioblazer, sorry I have been monitoring this thread. I really have little to offer about using the ARTs in a Rive room. I do suspect that they would fight each other, however, given my experience with the Holographs, which I ultimately sold.
Placement of each element is quite critical. I would call SR and ask them. They recommend using Holographs, however.
Ozzy, there price was somewhat of an obstacle. I got them at a "show special" price, but had I not heard the demonstration, I still would not have bought them. Given the price of the little, rival cups, however, they are not outrageously priced. They are far more effective. Yes, they are steel but I know there is careful reheating and tempering that has to be done individually.
I now have a home in New Mexico where I will spend five months of the year. I have a small listening room there and think I must either take my existing set back and forth or buy another. |
I talked with Ted Denney today and learned that at the RMAF a new less refined ART for $500 will be released. I don't know whether they will have a demonstration comparing the two versions, but I hope so. I need ARTs at my summer home. |
Audioblazer, I think you will be able to use BlueTac on all four walls with it. |
Audioblazer, the less expensive ART does not have the Vibraatron, as I understand it. |
It is merely an ART designed for a price point. |
