A new chapter has begun.


It’s been a little while since I’ve posted, but I am proud to share my recent upgrades to my system.  It’s been a very special year, and  having a milestone birthday with probably the worlds greatest wife, I’ve upgraded my ARC LS-17 and DS450 to a Ref 6 and Ref 75se.  Since I no longer use my Maggie’s, I no longer need brute power.  

They are both still breaking in, the ref 6 being ahead of the Ref75se, but the sound is just exceptional.  The system is beyond amazing, and to think that it will only get better.  It’s shut the lights, light a candle, and be transported to the venue good. The ref75 still has a loooong way to go to reach 600 hours, but I can say that I am one happy camper.  

The lack of grain is amazing. Sure it doesn’t have quite the insane supply reserve for startling dynamics that the DS450 has, but the huge power cut is of no worry, especially with my proacs.  I’m thinking with some burn in however, that dynamics will continue to improve.  Not that I’m complaining I’m the least, because comparing apples to oranges, this little tube amp is fierce in the dynamics.  

For me, the 8ohm tap was the obvious choice, even with my speaker rating at 4 ohm.  It just sings.  What a refined, mature sound. I understand what the hub bub is about now.  I’m in love.  
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Thanks Gregdude!  Yes a lot of overtime and an awesome wife made it all
happen.  I’m like a kid with a new bike. Im very taken by how smooth the highs are.  They extend very well without being too bright. Listening to Roger Waters Amused to Death is mind boggling experience.  The speakers disappear and are able to show all off the wizardry of the mix.  Incredible! 
Firstnot,

When I heard the ref6 it was love at first listen. That being said,
I like keeping the synergy of brands with my gear.  I feel the synergistic effect of having a matching system can cause  it to be greater than the sum of its parts.  While there may be better out there for the money, I enjoy my ARC gear and consider them to be a very safe “go to” for hi quality sound. I wasn’t really looking to mix and match, although, I’m sure many have phenomenal outcomes doing so.  
Ashoka, 

I’m sorry,  as a relatively new member, you’re not off to good start imho, especially with me.  If you’re going to troll me, get to know me first.  Have a little respect.  You come across as rude and condescending. I’m no snowflake, but that rubbed me the wrong way.

 Yes, there are a few typos here and there in my post.  But most of us should be able get past them and comprehend the message......I tapped it into my phone and not on my computer. Forgive me.  However, I do not feel that there was any “mumbling”. Im sure people were able to understand what I was trying to convey.

Let’s start over, shall we? 

Anyway, I’m very excited to have finally achieved this kind of quality gear. It’s a long time in the making.  I’ve been a member here for several years and other members know what has come and gone in my system.  For some reason, I do not see my virtual system listed anymore. Strange.   I will have to recreate one. 


Coming up at around 60 hours now. Always sounds amazing, but I will say that some days sound better than others. With my schedule, it will take me a while to rack up the hours for burn in, and unfortunately being an all tube system, turning it on and closing the door for 2 weeks is out of the question. After 60 hours, there is very noticeable increase in micro detail and finesse, although as of late, I feel like the depth could be better. (Could Be the ref 6 still Burning in).......The roller coaster of burn in!

What strikes me all the time however, is how the the ref 75se can unravel complexities so much better then my previous DS450. It is an x ray of the soundfield but it doesn’t sound clinical. It’s musical. Not hi fi pyrotechnic sizzles and boom.

Incidental noises on recordings are more discernible. Chair creaks, coughs, etc..you can see these things very easily. It’s imaging that I’ve rarely encountered before, and it’s satisfying to have it finally in my own system to enjoy. These two pieces work extremely well together.

I do remember reading a thread about a member who was breaking in their ref 6 and complained about it being bass shy at times and being a little on the bright side. Someone had mentioned that’s some people only notice the preamp get better and better and wondered why some people got "schizophrenic ref 6’s". some people, were quick to be dismissive and state there must be something with his system for him to hear differences from day to day.
I wouldnt go that far with mine, but I do concur with OP stating they could hear differences as his ref 6 was burning in. I hear it as well.

I had the ref 6 for about six months before getting the ref 75se. I put about 200 hours on it before the ref 75. While the ref 6 was an obvious improvement on the Ls17, the ref 75se is to my ears, an even bigger improvement on the DS450. I would imagine because the ds450 and ref75 are different topologies all together, while the already tubed LS-17 is more of a scaled and stripped down version of ARC’s better Tube preamps.

The ribbons on the proacs with tubes is absolute magic. It’s true, ARC and ProAc are a phenominal match. Shout out to JohnnyR and his associates at audio connection in Verona, NJ for their guidance and help. Great place to audition this gear. Be prepared though, you may fall in lust.

My love for this hobby has been rekindled, for sure. I have so much old music rediscover and enjoy! Feeling quite blessed. 😌