3a l'integral nouveau Vs. Verity parisfal encore


Anyone heard both? How is there sound different/the same? Does the verity sound more like a wilson product than the nouveau? My memory of wilson was that it has, relatively speaking, a leaner type of presentation (kinda sorta like a merlin). But mostly I'm curious as to how the first two compare...
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Its a bit of hit and miss because of the differences ancillaries can make to a speakers sound but I identify with the 3a walking a fine line of analytical as you say. The decapos arent analytical to a fault, though. I find them to be very objective and quite musical at the same time but yes a little more "mellow" and smoothness in them wouldnt hurt. But having said that the original question was about the nouveaus(or even the virtuoso's as they have the same corian cabinetry)which are better than the decapos and are probably closer competition to the encore's being that the cabinetry makes them apparently smoother and warmer. If the encores are like the wilson, which to me are like the merlins than i dont know if i would be interested in the encores. I heard some wilsons driven with macintosh gear and like the merlins they were holographic but to my taste lacked color, texture and body. I notice that merlin and encore both use scanspeak and mdf. They use them differently but nevertheless the basic ingredients are still there. I mention this cause it leads me to believe that if the encores use the same materials as the merlins that they might have a similar nature. I never found the merlins to have any real visceral impact and apparently neither do the encores. The above mentioned caveats was the deal breaker for me with the merlins. Though i still think their an intersting speaker. The nautilus 805 for a little standmount was quite visceral compared to the merlin. I liked that speakers physical impact. Anyways i like the capo's and if nouveau's take those qualities and smooths everything out but the encore's are still somewhat lean like the merlin/wilsons than perhaps the nouveau is my speaker. I dont know i'm just trying to work this out, outloud. Am i barking up the right tree?
If by comparison to the merlin and the wilsons the parisfal encore's ARENT lean than there might be just enough fatness on their bones to float my boat for a long while. Maybe. Though the nouveau might have a real nice flavor of their own as well.Which is the whole point of my original question. I guess its a tough question as the nouveau's are a relatively unheard speaker. Martykl how would you compare the merlins to your parsifal encores?
Good point.

Both the nouveau and the parsifal encore are obviously great speakers. I guess what i am trying to find out is whether or not the encore is, relatively speaking,...thin?
Here's how i define thin and this analogy just popped into my head. To me thin is when you get great soundstaging but no visceral impact or in othe words no "physicalness" which lends physical support to the details that your hearing. You hear the musical information in the soundstage, but you dont feel it on your body. What comes to mind are electrostats. My analogy is that of a comic strip. If you stand back the presentation of colors and structure are there, rich and dense but if you look closely enough you realize the picture is made up of a bunch of dots and the form and structure seems to be lost. Well, on a sliding scale with some speakers you gets more "dots" in the presentation than with others. With some speakers you cant see the "dots"(though theyre obviously there) and with some its more apparent than with others. "Dense" would be the opposite of "thin." So, with that definition, with the decapos i feel that, no, to a very high degree they are pleasingly dense, though at times, whether to my cabling, amplification or room or the speaker itself there is a small hint of "analytical" to them, but its to a acceptable degree in my estimation and they DO present the music with relatively good physical impact. In a degree that slightly betters the merlin tsm mm. In this way i felt the merlins were more like the wilson (musical info but not a high degree undergirding everything) and having never heard the encore's i'm wondering if the encore's are closer to the merlins in this respect than what the nouveau's would be? Anyone?