CAT SL1 + JL2 or JL3 compared to Lamm L2 + ML2.1


Hi,

Does someone compare those two brands, which are known for building "natural sounding" components.

I love Lamm ML2.1 with Kharma speakers : 3.2FE or Exquisite Mini, but other matched I've heard with Wilson WP8 or Maxx2, biger Kharma...are not so good.
ML2.1 is a great amplifier, but not enough power to drive some speakers.

So, do CAT, with JL2 or JL3 (last model) will be at same level ?

Thank you for sharing your experience.
davidri
This is the age old problem of never getting it all in one package. I use a Kharma/Lamm combination and love the way it sounds, but would love a little more power.

Are you looking for the dynamics (CAT SL1 or 2)of a live concert or are you comfortable with subtle nuances ( Lamm ML 2, 2.1) of a chamber piece or solo voice, but you can not find both in one unit!

But music consists of both dynamics and subtlty and until someone can make an amplifier that is around 150- 200 watts per ch/ but has SET like naturaliness, we are relegated to settle for one or the other.

I would open this discussion up to other people who have tried amps such as Gerry M5, Audio Note amps, or Lamm's ML 1.1's or Cary CAD 211's, etc. to share their findings.
I found that the CAT amp with the Joule preamp provides just that added touch of organic nuance (not that the CAT pre was not an excellent performer) that provides a more emotional connection to the music. I think the CAT will give you what you need "voiced" by the preamp you pair it with. In addition to the Joule, the Lamm LL2 was quite wonderful paired with the CAT amp. No doubt CAT is the dynamics champ in amplifiers. But, really we are talking about SOTA equipment, and if you can't be happy with either, you are not likely to find something that will satisfy you.
Davidri,
Just to confuse things a little. I wanted more bottom end and faster pace for my guarneris and I've tried a half dozen amps and still have three. What brought my system to a whole new level was not the amp, but was the CAT Ultimate 2 preamp and the difference was not incremental. Now, any one of my three amps sounds great, so I'm having a hard time deciding which one or two to part with. You might consider trying the CAT Ultimate 2, since your existing amps are very, very fine. I am amazed at what this preamp did for my system. YMMV, IMHO, etc.. Jeff ps. With the guarneris the sound is not what I would call sterile at all. It is fast, detailed without being harsh, super transparent, has great harmonics and is very quiet.