Difference between SET and push-pull using 300B


Can anyone explain the differences between SET and push-pull configures amplifiers using 300B output tubes? What does the majority prefer in terms of sonics?

I'm considering a pair of Zanden 9000s but just now realized that they were push-pull and not SET. I had an Art Audio Jota which was a SET and really liked the tonal quality -- just not sure how the 300B bould sound in push-pull configuration.

I appreciate your thoughts.
ca2284
The primary issue between SE and PP is the output transformer, although PP often has some additional circuit complexity. But its the transformer that makes the difference.

When running PP, the signal has to go from positive to negative and then the other way. Magnetics being what they are, they resist the change in polarity. This is called hysteresis loss. In a SE amp, all that is happening is that the current through the transformer is changing intensity, but never polarity: there is no hysteresis loss.

Due to hysteresis loss, a little bit of extra energy is required to change the polarity. This energy comes from the low level signal, essentially trading distortion for signal. That is why SETs have such great low level detail. Of course, PP has bandwidth that SETs cannot match.

Take away the output transformer and you take with it the issues of hysteresis loss- and any argument for SET. Then you can have the low level detail and the bandwidth at the same time. To my knowledge though, there was only one 300b true OTL ever built, and it was a prototype. OTLs need different tubes that are lower impedance, and they have their own requirements for speakers, although they can usually drive anything an SET or other low-powered PP amp can.
Nice thread. Is it critical to have a low impedance or low capacitance speaker cable connection to reduce the loss of dynamics or drive coming from an SET?

I am struggling with keeping my SET amp which has 6 small power supply banks so it never runs out of juice on peaks but I could not believe the authority a 7 watt PP Integrated with mickey mouse caps had over my speakers.
@La45

Theoretically it could be an issue and probably speaker cables with less capacitance should work better. But I had once on test at home SET 300B (Audiogon Silver Night) connected to my speakers with Kimber 8TC - which are known for relatively high capacitance - and it worked very well. No problems ...

I believe that the careful matching with the speakers is much more of an issue, when we are speaking about SET 300B, although (and that has to be said as well) they are capable of driving speakers that would never say that it is possible by just looking on speaker figures/numbers ...
High capacitance is not that strange in a speaker cable, as the capacitance contributes to lowering a quality known as characteristic impedance. When the characteristic impedance of a cable matches that of the speaker, you get a little more efficient power transmission from the amp due to less reflections.


How does copper or silver cables fit the equation when matching an SET amp to a speaker? My cables are non wire just foils so I hope they are low capacitance.