Tiglon ethernet cable adventures


First, my system: Rockna Wavedream NET server (currently in the other room), Rockna Wavedream Reference DAC, Pass XP-32 preamp, Pass XA60.8 monoblocks, Duevel Bella Luna omni speakers, DIY treated room. Currently trying out a few switches - Axxess Switch, Matrix SS-1, Bonn N8 Pro, and NuPrime Omnia SW-8. Cables are all Veritas Ultima except for the network cables.

 

I wanted to talk a little about the new Tiglon network cables I've been enjoying lately. From what I can tell, Tiglon is well known in Japan after operating there for decades. Not so much in other places or least based on my USA centric view. I had never heard of them until a friend was visiting from Japan and brought a few things for me to check out. His Audio Technica AWKG headphones were the most visually impressive headphones I've seen in a long time. I couldn't even get the best fit on my head and they still sounded sublime, in a quirky way that gave them real character. After messing with those for a while he showed me what he said was his favorite new digital cable which is the Tiglon TPL-2000L Professional. He knew I was on the hunt for a network cable upgrade and I'm so glad he shared this brand with me.

I had been switching around between an Audioquest Diamond, Stealth Audio Black Magic v21, Chord Sarum, and Wireworld Platinum Starlight 8, hoping one would be a good upgrade over my much less expensive Curious Ethernet cable. They all cost around $2k or more while my Curious was only $600. They were all slightly better in some ways but none of them got the balance quite right. And at those prices I expected a clear improvement. The rest of my system is Veritas Cables and I recently upgraded everything to their Ultima line, which I am extremely happy with. But they don't have an Ultima ethernet cable yet, and they don't know when it will be ready. That just leaves their Connexa which is priced even lower than my Curious. While it has a very good reputation, it didn't seem likely to be the upgrade I'm looking for, and I didn't want to wait around for the Ultima whenever that might be ready.

After trying the Tiglon TPL-2000L Professional for a week I figured my search was over. Huge expansive soundstage, silent background, lush midrange, explosive dynamics, the 2000L has it all. I didn't know how much it would sell for, or if I could even find it here, but I knew I wanted it. My friend would not sell his to me but did offer to buy it for me back home and ship it over. Turns out we didn't have to do all that, since Tiglon just opened a USA branch. The website was not finished so I just emailed and got an immediate response. They happened to have a 2000L in the length I needed, and I was shocked to hear it only sells for around $1k. I had been expecting at least double that based on the other ethernet cables I had been trying out. 

That could have been the end of the story. I used the 2000L for about a month and it only got better during that time. While browsing around Tiglon's Japanese website I came across a new ethernet cable they recently launched called the TPL-3000WT White Tiger. It is the new top model over the 2000L which remains in the lineup. I emailed Tiglon USA to see if they could get one for me, and it just so happened they had a batch incoming that week. Perfect! The price was around $2k which was still less than some of the other brands I had tried and not loved. The return policy was good so I figured I would take a chance.

So far it has only been a week or so. I can confidently say the new White Tiger is the best ethernet cable I've heard at any price. It's a keeper. Actually both Tiglon ethernet cables are staying, going into different systems. I still love the TPL-2000L Professional and it represents an amazing value for $1k. The White Tiger does beat it though, in pretty much every aspect. Sometimes the differences are small but cumulatively it makes a big enough difference to justify the extra money. I've never heard such pinpoint imaging from my beloved omni speakers. I also have a set of Marten Django XL speakers here at the moment (long story) and although they aren't omni designs like my Duevels, they still showcase that huge soundstage and lifelike placement that both Tiglon network cables show, but the White Tiger most of all. 

In my other system, the difference is not as pronounced. Which is not surprising as the Rockna in my main system is just so resolving. So I'm happy keeping the 2000L there as it is still an excellent cable, and does show improvement there over any of the other options I had tried.

I still need to make a decision on the network switch. So far I'm slightly leaning towards the Matrix SS-1 for my main system and the high value NuPrime Omnia for my other setup. My experience so far is that the switches are all improvements over traditional commodity options, but also they seem to impact the sound less than the actual ethernet cables do. The upgrade in general is more important than the specifics of which one is installed. I hear a lot more variation swapping the cables out than I do swapping the switches. I don't know if this applies to every audio oriented switch out there but it seems to be true of this batch, they are all excellent. 

To wrap it up though, the Tiglon network cables are excellent, and John at Tiglon USA was great to deal with. I recently overhauled all the other cables in my main system with Veritas Ultima cables and moved the existing Veritas models into system two, so I'm staying put with those. But I'm actually starting to slowly assemble another system using all Japanese gear. When that starts coming together I will be using Tiglon cables for that project. Based on my experience with their two network cables, I bet the rest are brilliant as well.

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@knock1 Yeah what a strange hobby. 

Anyway, I'll get back on track to say the Tiglon network cables continue to sound excellent and are only getting better with age. The TPL-2000L Pro has to be one of the best performance to price ratios out there. And the White Tiger is so far the best I've heard for absolute performance at any price.

TAPc (Transverse Axial Polarizer) is a patent-pending technology that couples to the electromagnetic fields surrounding electrical or signal conductors. TAPc behaves like a polarizer, passively reducing electromagnetic distortion that presents as a type of glare on sound or images.

The sonic impact of TAPc is unmistakable. There is a profound drop in perceived noise floor, effortlessly portrayed dynamics and an immediate improvement in the rendering of timing and coherency in sound. These performance elements are unique to TAPc and remain unaddressed by competing technologies of any kind. Even casual listeners can recognize the effect TAPc has upon first listen. Results are consistent across a wide range of components and systems. Essentially, the TAPc modules act as force multipliers, elevating the listening experience to levels many would not have thought possible.

 

WHAT? No, if that were the case such a material would already be in use in military, aerospace, etc. 

@frank009  WHAT? It sounds like you are trying to pull the wool over our eyes, but the description of Shunyata's TAPc acoustic effects sound remarkably similar to a review of the Bayz Audio Time Corrector I read. (Google it.) I submit that not every new technology is immediately put to use in the military and aerospace industries.

@longplayer 

No wool over anyone’s eyes.

I copied and pasted it directly from the Shunyata webpage - the link I posted above in my first post on this discussion.

I looked this up: Bayz Audio Time Corrector

It appears to be an audio interconnect adapter/flex cable which internally?! (has some sort of circuitry or a master clock, temp controlled crystal oscillator) as those deal with timing errors. 

Those solutions are for digital/analog stages in DACs and are best implemented internally, by the manufacturer, inside the device, closest to the DAC chip and a the output stage.

If the Bayz Audio Time Corrector is truly "correcting time" then time domain accuracy should be improved.

Fast recordings should sound a bit faster.

Slow recordings could be somewhere in the middle.

Basically, matching the impulse response of the signal and slew rate/rise time of the amplifier in a cleaner way.

And it has to be repeatable with at least a few well-known, difficult to render tracks, rather than basic music played at audio shows.

@frank009 Is there a specific reason why you felt compelled to pop into my post, where I document my real world experience with a few TiGLON products, to dump on cables in general? And then specifically call out a technology from a completely different brand? 

Do you also hang around baseball enthusiast forums urging everyone to watch basketball instead, as it is objectively more of an active team sport? What about car forums, where you decry enthusiast cars and plead with the forum members to buy sensible hybrids instead? 

For the life of me I can't understand why people like you act the way you do. It's like approaching someone in a supermarket and telling them (unprompted) that their choice of shirts doesn't look good. It's just weird behavior, and I wish folks like you would find a better hobby.