$35000 to $40,000. speakers what would you buy and why?


I am contemplating purchasing my End game speakers.     The ones that catch my eye are the Magico M3, Magico M project,  Stenheim Alumine 5se, Rockport Cygnus and the Songs Faber Amati Homage G5.   My system consists of  An Aurender N20 feeding a MSB Technology Premier Dac with Premier powerbaye.  Preamp duties are handles by An Audio Research Reference Anniversary and amplification is a pair of Lamm M 2.2 mono blocks. I currently have Magnepan 3.7i's.   I love their transparency and inner detail but they do not play in the low registers.   I do not want separate subs....  My room is mediums sized.  I listen to mostly soft pop, classical and some light rock.   I am trying to walk the thin line of tranparency vs musicality.    I would enjoy some suggestions and some sound reasoning behind members choices in speakers.  I do not want this to morph into a bashing thread.  Please stay on topic.

chuck

@8th-note 

Very comprehensive summary of comparisons.

I’m looking at the sonus amati g5 and maybe the Supreme.

I biamp with solid state for the bass and tubes for the other drivers. I really like that a lot. So assessing vocals is very difficult unless you have this type of set up. Curious if they focused on any of this in any of the listening rooms you were in. Also what are your thoughts on biamp approach. 

I currently use MC901 monos and Bowers 802D3 speaker. I think it sounds really nice but I’m thinking of upgrading speakers.

 I like your commentary because it provides a lot of interesting ideas, and maybe I need to explore other possibilities.  Mostly use my setup for home theater and also for stereo listening but mostly home theater.

 

 

steve59

Not all speakers need subs...but every audio room does.....

I did not buy mine for the bass - which they do, but for my room...they do so much more for...

The shows/demos use subs for the room they are limited too, not for the speakers.

I’d be curious to know if anyone has ever duplicated an experience in a dealer listening room once you bring home the speakers, or even better, improved upon it.

@jmrrobbie1:  Speakers are very "subjective"...I feel the most subjective part of the audio experaaince! What measures well, what is hyped, what some feel are endgame, might not suite you. It is the one component you need to go and audition...not briefly, but a sit down dedicated 2-4 hr session, then come back the next day for another 1-3 hr session...take notes.

@chuck (the OP):   I am leaning towards purchasing used speakers to get more value.   Thus auditioning at a dealer would be fruitless as I would not want to waste their time.    I love the looks of the magico speakers and like what the reviewers say.  The downside is many say that sound clinical and lifeless.   I like the Rockports but it seems that they have had quality control issues of late so I am a bit afraid of them.    I like the form factor of the stegnheim's as well as the Joseph Audio Pearls.    Although I have never been enamored with SEAS drivers.   I think I will take everyone's advice and spend time at a show and see which speaker I prefer.  Thank you all!!

This thread is a great example of individual, subjective preferences -- we all have them. And that's as it should be!  Because we're participating in the subjective pass time of attempting to insert & recreate (as if they were there) instruments, musical performers and their performances into our homes.  That obviously can't be done, but I often find myself being happily immersed in the illusion.

In this thread, there's speaker after speaker being described and recommended.  And that's why measurements in general are pretty useless, when our subjective ear/brain connection computes what we like and don't like.

We learn to like what we like and that changes, as we subject ourselves to different experiences...audio and everything else in life. 

In this case, different components...speakers, etc., provide different presentations which we then classify as OK, poor, good, neutral, jaw dropping etc.  And the one overriding factor is that we tend to disagree as much, or more than we agree.  But that's not a negative, it's just a fact.

So many speakers, so little time.  That's why I previously suggest to choose a type - e.g. enclosed cones & domes and hybrid designs with ribbon tweeters, and full-range planar/ribbon dipole loudspeakers and electrostats, horns/hybrid horns, open baffles/hybrid baffles etc.  I suggest this in order to prioritize one's focus and I believe we tend to prefer one type over another, but also, it's never prudent to rule out one type over another, until they've been experienced, because no matter how they look, or what others say pro or con, we may like them, or not etc.     

But picking components, particularly speakers, based on their aesthetics...how they look, from factors, what other people say, is just throwing darts at a dartboard while blindfolded with 2-blindfolds (could that be a form of double blind testingwink?).  

 

 

 

 

@emergingsoul I have always used one amplifier to drive my speakers. My Thiels and my new Dynaudios only have one set of binding posts so biamping is not practical. My approach has been to focus on one really good amplifer rather than biamping but like everything else in this hobby it's a matter of personal preference. If biamping is required to optimize the vocals in a particular speaker then I would avoid that speaker because there's just too many variables to deal with. I would rather spend the money on an amp and speaker that work together to provide the best sound throughout the frequency range.

Regarding the dealer experience vs. the home experience I can easily say that my home listening room is far better in every respect than the dealer's room in which I heard the speakers. I'm fortunate to have recently built our dream house with my dream listening room and I'm thrilled by how good it sounds. As I mentioned in my post, I've run REW and can say that it's not my imagination. The test results are really good. I'm going to carefully add some treatment to make the room better but I could live with the current sound no problem.