USB connection to DAC: multi stage improvement


In my setup (Innuos Zenith Mk3, Antelope Zodiac Platinum with Sean Jacobs DC3/4 and Antelope Audiophile clock) sequential addition of decrapifiers has lead to increasing transparency, dynamics and soundstage depth.

My chain now reads like this

ZenithMk3->Singxer UIP->JHoinrich Isolator RH07b->IFi USB iPurifier3->LHY UIP2.0 Pro->Intona7054b->Zodiac Platinum

 

The Singxer is powered by Sean Jacobs DC3/4, The Lhy is reclocked by the Antelope clock

 

Of particular note: this is the best result of trying every conceivable permutation.

 

In terms of overall impact:

1. reclocking the LHY using the same clock on DAC and upstream Etherregen

2. introducing galvanic insulation after each powered device.

3. using isolator equipment with different chips at each stage.

 

i have learned the hard way that fighting ground level noise, RFI/EMI and other network noise is a gradual rather than binary solution at each step and that in digital audio ‘less is more’ doesn‘t apply as it does in the analogue section. Equally the whole bits are bits debate seems churlish against this background

antigrunge2

I can completely relate to the drive to optimize the USB path. Years ago, I was firmly in that same camp, deploying the iFi Micro and Nano iUSB3.0 power supplies, inline iPurifiers, and Gemini split-data/power cables across my main and secondary systems. When you are wrestling with standard computer audio outputs, adding these stages absolutely changes the sound, often bringing a welcome sense of calm and transparency by shifting the leakage current and power supply noise spectrum around.

But for the lurkers following this thread who are looking for true isolation, it’s worth stepping back and looking at the root cause of the problem.

Cascading five different USB isolators, reclockers, and hubs introduces a massive amount of hardware complexity, multiple power supplies, and up to ten physical impedance boundaries where high-speed digital signals can reflect and create deterministic jitter. It’s essentially treating the symptoms of USB's inherent liabilities—packet bursts and erratic CPU polling that generate EMI—with a long chain of hardware band-aids.

I've since discovered a much more elegant, modern way to achieve this goal at the protocol layer rather than the USB hardware layer.

Moving to an architecture like Diretta—specifically running Diretta Direct Stream (DDS) Mode 3 L2 frames over a simple, point-to-point CAT6 or CAT6a patch cable between a Host and Target—provides complete physical and galvanic isolation natively via the network interface. More importantly, it continuously paces the audio data to keep the endpoint’s CPU cycles perfectly flatlined and uniform. By eliminating the erratic processing spikes that plague USB transmission stacks, you stop the electrical noise from being generated at the source, leaving nothing to mitigate.

If you enjoy the science experiment and the puzzle of mixing and matching different isolation chips, the multi-box USB route is certainly a path you can take. But if your goal is an elegant, low-clutter system with maximum isolation, fixing the transmission architecture via a protocol like Diretta renders the entire "decrapifier" chain obsolete.

If you are at all curious, you can read my open source DIY "cookbook" for solving this problem architecturally here: Building a Dedicated Diretta Link with AudioLinux on Raspberry Pi

 

 

jmrrobbie1

 

+1

 

Upon reading the OP  I immediately thought of the Berkeley Audio USB converter  I have the Alpha Reference 3P and USB converter. Remarkable sound quality and ease of use. For those of you struggling with issues I would recommend giving this a try before attempting a complex solution with multiple devices.

 

 


 

 

@jhconnor - I would like to hear that 3P Reference some day, and I bet it sounds amazing. What I am curious about is your Alpha USB. Do you have the Reference Series or Series 2?  I want to use one to operate two different DACs in my main system and I am strongly leaning towards the reference based on the reported sound quality.  Does it sound as good as they say? Thanks.

@mitch2 - the Reference 3P is an outstanding improvement over the Reference 3. I owned the Series 1 and 2 USB converters prior to the Reference USB. When I originally upgraded my DAC to the 3P I had the Series 2 USB converter. There was a noticeable improvement in overall space and dimension and clarity. Once I installed the my new Reference USB there was another "step up" in weight, texture and "believability". Because I changed both the DAC and the USB within a short period of time it's hard for me to pinpoint how much of the "change" came from the DAC vs the Converter. The Series 2 is still an excellent piece. I would recommend starting with the Series 2 - it's less than half the price, and seeing what you experience in your system. 

Thanks @jhconnor that is solid advice but everything I read indicates the Alpha USB Ref is a very significant step up from the Series 2 and consistent with your “weight, texture and "believability" comment, so I believe I will go that route and purchase the USB Ref.  It will connect both a Merason DAC 1 MkII (or DAC 2) via coax and an Aries Cerat Helene via AES. I would like to switch to a single solid state DAC some day and the Ref 3P is on my short list to hear, as is the Merason Mountain.