Power Tube Failure


A little while ago a small tube (in my Phono-Preamp) died.  It was a subtle affair in which the tube turned white and the glass cracked, not necessarily in that order.  This failure was interesting, but not dangerous.

Yet, this event got me wondering - what happens when a power tube dies?

My Preamp's power tube runs quite hot, and I am concerned it may be a FIRE HAZARD when that tube fails. 

My second concern is that my Preamp may be DAMAGED when the power tube dies.

So, I am hoping to hear from anyone who has EXPERIENCED a power tube failure and can provide any insight regarding what to expect. 

 

notes:

a. Yes, my Preamp counts hours, but I own several power tubes and do not know how many hours of service each has provided. 

b. Testing these tubes is not plausible - I do not have a tube-tester, and there are no HiFi retailers within a reasonable driving distance.

Thanks in advance for your stories!

Best,

inagroove

@buellrider97 

Thanks for the information.

I am only referring to the power tubes. I have one in my PreAmp.  

Yes, the impetus of this question was the loss of a tube in my Phono Preamp, but I am not very concerned with possible damage of low-amp tubes like the 12AX7s.

Also, good to hear about your success with the 'Orange' tester.  I am window-shopping for a tester, but need to better understand the limitations of each. 

Best,

@inagroove 

I only get two answers from my inexpensive 'basic' tester.

I recommend them so you can AT LEAST know something about your used tubes, when something is amiss, and test new ones when they arrive, i.e. are they 'matched' as the seller said they were.

1st, test for shorts. I have found a few over the years, not many, but a few. 

2nd, IF no short, test for strength on the scale which has reference numbers:

BAD (red); ?; Good (green), 

Good: record the number it reaches on the scale after warming up 1 minute, and check if the tubes are very close in numbers, i.e. matched.

A new tube is not 100, it is what it is, i.e. 72, just a number.

I just tested a dozen 5687's for my friend, a pair of new 'matched'; a pair of old ones he pulled when he initially purchased the mono-blocks used (and didn't have a tester) and 8 'no brand' used tubes the seller sent along as spares with the sale.

Turns out, the most closely matched pair was the pair he had initially pulled (shame he didn't have a tester, like I say, he was blind).

no shorts, they ranged from 68 to 74, several very close pairs could be made, and the new pair were 70 and 72.

what do the numbers mean? hell if I know, they are well up into the green!!!

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If you want to know more that that, you need a better tester. 

btw, my wife bought mine used in 1983, and I've had the ability to at least get those answers for all my tubes for 43 years.

It has never been calibrated, I don't care, a short will show up, and the color green, and the uncalibrated numbers are comparative to each other, just like my inexpensive SPL meter is. I can calibrate it, but why bother,

relative comparisons are all I want to know.

 

may be too late here, but check your voltage. could be spiking at certain times each day.

@elliottbnewcombjr 

Thanks, that makes sense as a place to begin.  Yet I need to admit, with Bad (red);  Good (green) my 'Geeky' side dies just a little bit ;-).

That said, I will try to get an instruction manual with whatever tester I purchase.

Best

Since '81 I've had a few tubes go out on my entry level CJ amp & preamp.

Usually a fuse blows at the same time, with no fireworks, but I've also had a sparkler show at least once. Loud "blam" occasionally.

My K-horns are so revealing that I replace tubes when the wind noise "whoosh" gets too noticeable.

Guitar amps have been tube-driven from the beginning, so an amp shop is a great resource to test tubes.

Good luck!