SQ Comparison of 3 streamers


Do you concur these assessments if you were the owner?

SQ Comparison: Eversolo T8 vs Innuos Zen Mk3 vs Volumio Rivo Plus

Feature Eversolo T8 Innuos Zen Mk3 Volumio Rivo Plus
Tonal Balance Slightly warm, musical Neutral, reference Neutral-warm, slightly lush
Midrange Lush, expressive Transparent, accurate Smooth and natural, slightly forward
Bass Tight, controlled Tight, maybe leaner Solid, full-bodied, a bit warmer than Zen
Detail Retrieval High, smooth Very high, analytical High, clear
Dynamics Natural, engaging Precise, accurate Great, rhythmic and musical
Soundstage Imaging Spacious, slightly forward; enveloping Very wide and deep; highly precise Wide, deep, more relaxed
Overall Impression Engaging & musical Neutral & resolving Balanced, musical, and slightly “polished”
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Yeah, one of my frustrations is the extent to which “the industry” does not provide standardized measurements, particularly since noise (and its absence) is the only differentiator among streamers.  Paul Miller has tried to do it at HiFi News, though.  Interestingly, Stereophile. which I believe shares the same parent company, does not, and my suspicion is that there is so much money in the industry coming from streamer-centric companies (e.g., Lumin, Innuos, Auralic, Aurender, Eversolo, etc.), that it would shut off a fair percentage of current advertising revenue.  (I’m not by nature a conspiracy theory type, but I’ve had a couple email exchanges with Jim Austin at Stereophile that troubled me a bit.)

Regardless, Paul Miller’s measurements of a couple Eversolo products are intriguing:  on one hand, the Play, a budget product, measured over 300 psec of jitter, vs. 5 psec for the DMP A10.  Of course, both of these products have DACs, and you can’t tell from the published data if the source of the jitter is the streamer or the DAC, not to mention the fact that 300 psec is not bad.  And of course, as you noted, jitter is not the only source of noise involved in the nexus between a streamer and DAC.  

Finally, congrats on your selection of the Rivo+; Miller’s measurements of the cheaper Rivo indicated that its handling of noise, measured not just by jitter, but also signal to noise ratios, was state of the art, and comparable to products in the $10k - $30k range.  So it’s not really a surprise to me that you preferrred it.

OP  SQ Comparison of 3 streamers

As a reference, hear my WT amp ultra (streamer+DAC+amp) sounds.

mswale   I'm currently looking for a new streamer/DAC in the $1kish range, for me, only the Eversolo would work, but I don't think I want that one.

My WT amp ultra ($1300 in Audiogon) might be the one.

Alex/Wavetouch audio

@mihorn  This Wiim reproduces the closest to the original music and the most accurate audio streamer +DAC+amp. This is an only natural sound audio system in the world and this reduces your Tinnitus and brain fog.

Please articulate and itemize the modifications. I’m curious. The YouTube recordings sound good—it seems you’ve improved your recording technique. I am a bit concerned about placing your own brand label on a WiiM product.

The Pulse Mini was rated by iiWi as neutral, but only slightly better than the iFi ZS (which I would rate as so-so). The T8 is in another league.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osjv8MgmenA&t=25s