Dang it… cables do matter (at least in my system)


I really didn’t want to write this post.

Like many of you, I am not a cable guy. I would much rather believe that a well-made, sensibly priced cable gets you 99% of the way there and that anything beyond that is mostly jewelry for audiophiles. In fact, that belief is exactly why I started this experiment in the first place.

I recently picked up a higher-end phono cable (Nordost Heimdall 2) to compare against a Blue Jeans Cable I already owned and respected. My intention—honestly—was to scratch the curiosity itch, confirm that the cheaper cable sounded just as good in my system, and then send the expensive one back with my wallet intact and my worldview reinforced.

That… did not happen.

In my system, the pricier cable consistently sounded better. Not “night and day,” not “jaw on the floor,” but unmistakably better: wider and more coherent soundstage, stronger and more articulate bass, better placement of instruments, more air around them, and a more resolved top end that wasn’t brighter or etched. Just clearer. More sorted. More believable.

Still, I was fully prepared to chalk some of that up to expectation bias. After all, I knew which cable was which, and $1,200 has a way of whispering sweet nothings into your ears.

So tonight, during a dinner party, I did something unplanned. I had four people listen—my brother (a dyed-in-the-wool non-audiophile), my daughter (a budding audiophile), my sister-in-law (a musician), and my wife. I didn’t tell them which cable was which, only that they were two different phono cables at very different price points and that I was trying to decide between them.

All four, independently and without hesitation, preferred the same cable. Not subtly. Not with hedging. My brother—who could not care less about hi-fi and would happily listen through a Bluetooth speaker—said there was “no question” which one he liked and that he wouldn’t use the other if given the choice.

Cue my quiet sigh.

So yes, to my chagrin and to the detriment of my wallet, the more expensive cable outperformed the cheaper one in my system. I wish the Blue Jeans had won. I truly do. This would have been a much cheaper and more philosophically satisfying outcome.

I’m not claiming cables transform systems, nor that everyone needs to run out and spend real money on them. I’m also not suggesting this will translate universally. But in this case—same system, same music, multiple listeners—the difference was real enough that even the skeptics in the room heard it.

I remain annoyed.
But apparently… cables do matter. Somewhat.

Dang it

brighamdoc

@mulveling 

And to those who mentioned Audioquest Sky - yeah that's a GREAT cable.

I demoed the Sky cables, 15 years ago.  But I purchased the Wild Blue Yonder cables.

I had a very good relationship with the store's owner, and got a nearly 50% discount from the retail price.  It was still expensive, but it was a deal that I could not pass up.

New silver is ridiculously expensive, and that was even before it hit $100 / oz.

I can't imagine the price of Audioquest's (or any other reputable brand's) silver cables, today.

On another site: ANA, these clowns are mostly cable naysayers even when they haven’t listened to the cable, if it costs more than $25, you wasted your money and you listened to snake oil. Quite a few of these naysayers thought the blue jeans cable in question was the best cable to use, I own cables costing 15 times or more than a pair of the blue jeans cables, so I bought a pair, broke them in for a month, and evaluated them. Compared to my reference cables, the blue jeans were lifeless, no soundstage, it was like you put a blanket over the speakers. I sold them.

$1000 or even a little more isn’t that much to pay for a cable if tou have a resolving system.

 

Someone above commented on trying to upgrade power cords.  I’m about to dive head first down that rabbit hole! Between shunyata alpha or nordost Heimdall 2 for a Cronus dark integrated amp and luxman e-250 phono stage.  

@pmzn 

I recently purchased a Shunyata Sigma-X power cord that is between my store demo Shunyata Everest and the wall socket.  That resulted in my losing my soundstaging, to a relatively large degree.

It took 3 days, of leaving my stereo playing non-stop, for my soundstage to return.  I left my stereo playing all of that time at a very low volume.

According to a Shunyata representative (relayed to me by the store's personnel), you have to have a sizeable power draw demand going through that power cord, in order for it to break in.  Having your stereo in stand-by (components making a trickle draw) is not enough.

I do not know if that is unique to that model power cord.  And I never knew that a power cord could make such a drastic soundstaging change, until broken in.

If you choose to go with Shunyata power cords, keep the above in mind.  Do not judge your purchase based on your first listening session.

I wish that I was given a head's up, because when I plugged it in, and I heard my soundstage shrink, I was borderline distraught.

You mentioned the "Alpha" model.  Perhaps you meant the Alpha-X, which is their replacement for the Alpha (and a step up from the Alpha)?

The Alpha-X and the Sigma-X (the one I purchased) sit side-by-side in Shunyata's model line.  So I am pretty sure that it will behave as mine behaved, requiring a break-in period.

Interconnects, and indeed any wires carrying audio signals, do indeed matter, a lot.  I am, however, bugged by their cost.  My Cardas Clear Reflections between the DAC and Pre and Pre to Amp cost significantly more than my digital transport (aka streamer)!