CD vs SACD in STEREO


I started to listen to SACD to enjoy the 5.1 format. 

I thought SACD is exclusively used for that purpose.

Today read discussion about sound quality of new/modern/ "better" CD vs Streaming vs vinyl vs SACD, where the SACD apparently was referrung to STEREO SACD. 

On a 'numbers' basis, what is the difference between CD and SACD (assume same player, etc)?

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In addition to playing sacds, a sacd player will (in general) tend to sound better on regular cds, shm, blu-spec cds, etc as well.

If you have a notable collection of the latter, it would be more worthwhile to get a sacd player for all your cd playback.

@yoyoyaya Just curious: some of the best CD I heard were very simple (almost?), 'direct to digital' with a minimum or no mixing, mastering, etc. Ideally a few mics, volume mix, A to D conversion and 'burnt' onto disc. In this context, I remember one guy who experimented with digital tape recorder early on (40 years ago). One recording he played was in the middle of the night (low background noise level) recording a tripping faucet in a small bathroom, and then someone opening the door quickly. Played back from the digital recorder over a stereo with a 'bed' size sub (built like a queen size bed), the dripping was eerie, but when the door opened, the pressure increase in the small bathroom was noticeably reproduced by the sub. 

SO, are there some (obscure), maybe 'audio test' CD for SACD that make use of very little 'mix mash'?

 

Found this. Am I on the right track? 

Top SACD Recommendations with Minimal Processing

The following SACDs are renowned for their "purist" approach, often using a single microphone array or recording live to a DSD master without any intermediate digital edits.

  • Patricia Barber – Café Blue (Un-Mastered): This specific "Un-Mastered" version (Impex Records) is highly regarded because it removes the typical compression and EQ adjustments applied for radio. It offers a raw, in-the-room realism that highlights the dynamic capabilities of the DSD format.

  • Jazz at the Pawnshop (30th Anniversary Edition): A classic audiophile staple recorded in 1976 using simple Nagra recorders and two microphones. The SACD layer preserves the natural room acoustics and "clink" of glasses, making it one of the most immersive live recordings ever made.

  • Muddy Waters – Folk Singer (Analogue Productions): Often cited as the definitive "unplugged" blues recording. The SACD mastering is intentionally minimal to keep the session "breathing" rather than sounding scrubbed clean by digital noise reduction.

  • David Elias – Acoustic Trio (DSD Sessions): A modern "Pure DSD" benchmark. This was recorded live to DSD64 with minimal miking and no edits or overdubs, specifically designed to demonstrate how DSD can capture the natural decay of acoustic instruments.

Someone said that redbooks are not 24 bit . I have a lot of them. SACD is one bit. Same guy says SACD was always about 5.1 surround. The original single layer ones from 1999 on mostly blue colored discs only play on dedicated SACD players and none were surround only 2 channel stereo like music has always been. The multi channel discs came in when they started to produce hybrid with 2 layers , top one is redbook and imbedded layer is SACD.

@yoyoyaya 

The state of computer technology at the time would not have made it feasible to mix it digitally, and it wasn't recorded to hard disc in the first place anyway

The computer technology was there, but the cost would have been prohibitively high if the mixing had to be computed in real time!

My understanding is that Brothers in Arms was recorded direct to a 24-track Sony digital tape recorder.  Being digital, it really does not matter what the medium is.  The first 'mainframe' I programmed had direct access storage devices (to use IBM's name for disks) which were actually based on 2-m continuous loops of 2" wide magnetic tape blown round by compressed air.

The record scandal was the other way round - disks were marketed as all-analogue but used digital files!

Anyway, happy new year