@noromance
No. I am not suggesting that at all.
It is established fact that Siemens produced a great many tubes for Telefunken. They are labelled for Telefunken but do not (in my years of experience in selling tubes) have the diamond on the bottom. They instead have a number embossed in the glass as is characteristic of Siemens made tubes.
But that wasn't my point.
What I am saying is that Telefunken tubes aren't as great as people think they are. They think that when they buy Telefunken they have somehow bought the defacto best tube out there and in one fell swoop dismiss every other tube as inferior, often without ever having heard many (or in some cases any) other tubes out there. The only thing they've heard are people just like them talking about how great Telefunken tubes are. Truth is, if you secretly swapped out their Telefunken diamond on the bottom tubes with some Ei tubes (aka "Fake Telefunkens") hardly any one of them would notice.
I think Telefunken tubes are good. Very good even. Rarely great. Telefunken made three types of 12AX7, 17mm Smooth Long Plate, 17mm Ribbed Long Plate and the frame grid ECC803S; with the latter often being made by Tesla or Siemens under contract for Telefunken. The ECC803S is a great tube. The garden variety Telefunken 17mm plates are very good, but they are not great.
If you look at the number of variations that Valvo and Siemens made for 12AX7 such as the E83CC, E283CC, and the mC series of long plate tubes (e.g. mCp, mC1, mC2, mC3, mC4, mC5, mC6) and then the variations within each of those (for instance Valvo made three types of mC1 tubes alone – 45º Halo Getter (1957), 45º Foil Getter (1956), and Tilted Square Getter (1956-7)) there are dozens and dozens of different tubes that do all the things that Telefunken tubes do and do them better.
And listen, I don't know you, maybe you know all of these other tubes intimately well and still feel that way. I would respect that tremendously.
In any event its late, I'm tired, and tired also of seeing the same old Telefunken propaganda out there and chose to vent my frustration on a stranger that I am sure has far better things to do then engage with an exhausted, temporarily disgruntled tube dork.
Have a wonderful night.