Let's talk music, no genre boundaries
This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.
I am posting an album I pull out and play very often. You'll probably all be scratching your heads, like what? Why does he like that? Partly for her poetics. Also I heard it when it first came out on the radio and it's been with me for many years. Nostalgia? Don't know. Just like it a lot. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTIb4fKCEAevye8E5UTN8boXbA4RWHcOm |
I had a kind of illumination about Beethoven quartets... I never understood why they fascinated me till the day i "see" them as fractals of sound.....
As Bach created the "art of the fugue" as kind of complex geometry more resembling Riemann complex geometry, Beethoven create in some of his quartet a kind of illuminating fractals of sound...
I love very much Talich clean crystalline interpretation since the beginning of my love affair... ( more easier with them to see fractals in the sound ofthese quartet) But i must listen many other versions this year... Beethoven genius reach his peak in the quartets as Bach reach his peak in the "art of the fugue" ... I am very happy to "see" this music meaning as form in time... Anyway this "pure music" takes the human heart way over mundane feeling into pure spirit realm as Scriabin did, as Bruckner did, each in his own way with new means of expression... |
On par with his Quartet, i think the 7th symphony of Beethoven is one of the most perfect symphony ever written...Only Bruckner may rival Beethoven. Here a comparison between different interpretation using the allegretto, one of the most powerful piece of music ever written. Why? Because for me it describe the power of life as an irreversible force growing in us and pushing even rocks and any obstacles... Death has no power against life but is only his servant .. This allegretto is a seed growing which nothing can stop... |
If you can stream, here is suggestion: stream Beethoven's 7th Symphony by Karlos Kleiber. He does not play around with timing to milk emotions. At least that's what my ear hears. Yet, staying within fairly strict time constraints, he can seem to pull out more emotion than current conductors who like to ebb and flow a lot. I am listening to my Samson Francois album. I bought it in a used record store and picked it up for Liszt's two piano concertos. I dismissed the pianist because I'd never heard of him. Now I can begin to appreciate him. He died relatively young. |
i know Kleiber and he is in the video i posted...Thanks for the suggestion ,it is the most universally recommended version among other great one... When i spoke about musical time, i did not refer to measurable duration as in slow or less slow speedy etc... Musical time refer for me to the way the time qualities impressions seems to be born from the musician gesture itself (or the maestro) and not from an external recommendation or even suggestion even by the composer... «Musical time concepts include tempo (speed), meter (organization of beats into measures), time signatures (notation for meter), pulse (the steady underlying beat), and rhythm (the pattern of sounds and silences). These elements create the structured flow and patterns that define a piece of music» The musical time is what tie all these elements and factors together in an organic non measurable qualitative whole. The musical time manifestation by an artist cannot be taught and cannot even be imitated.It is the most precious core of the musical miracle as pure individualisation of the universal as his time dimension.
Samson Francois is a cult French pianist. He was legendary and his interpretation of Scriabin sonata no-3 is proof...
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