Let's talk music, no genre boundaries

@mahgister 

I am reassured by what you say, not insulted. But we need to find a way to take this discussion out of this forum. Would you try direct messaging me. Once when @stuartk did it, I received an email I could respond to. My Audiogon screen is screwed up and doesn’t allow me to send out DMs. 

 

 

You are  a cool soul and a wise guy...

 I think we had pretty much expressed our perspective clearly to one another ...

I dont see what to add...

 We will stick more to sound and music ...

And if philosophy comes back again i will keep it shorter ...

 

 

 I will recommend a genre i dont know how to characterise ...( is this heavy metal ? )

A fun listen i used few times few years ago to test my system /room ...

I learn to like their albums and hear it time to time ( i had all their albums) but especially this one :

 

 The revolutionary army of the infant Jesus , "a rumor of angels " album ...

I dont like any rock or heavy metal  "band " music usually much to stay polite...

But there is exception for anything in my case even " heavy metals" ( i dont like) save some album ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIKHQS6LC9A&list=RDRIKHQS6LC9A&start_radio=1&t=83s

 

The youtube video describe this as "experimental dark folk"...

Funny ... For me it is rythmic waves light metal  music ...

 

By the way  if you had a non optimized system  it will not translated well in your system/ room and instead of clear rythmical waves of sound you will have a puddle ...

 

It posted this because nobody reacted to my Sorabji posts ....

A genius  which propose pieces impossible to listen without  total concentration on a long time span...

 Perhaps a kind of "rock band " i like will create a more satisfying impression ...

Anyway it is always spiritual music  which is my best "genre" through all genres and cultures ....

Bach or Australian didgeridoo are spiritual music content for me : " a sound creating a felt change in consciousness"...

If something dont create a change in my consciousness i throw it in a trash bin ... (most music albums sold )  But we are all different and for you it can be an album i dislike who create this change in consciousness ...

 

 

@mahgister 

I will listen tomorrow. I would venture to guess that most people listen to music most of the time for pleasure or entertainment. I think you are unique in mostly listening for spiritual reasons. Although, I'm not sure what you mean by "spiritual." You have posted a number of sacred pieces in the Christian tradition, however, I'm guessing that your definition of spirituality goes beyond Christianity.

I am assuming that you grew up in Russia because you say that many Russian artists became part of your youth. I think in the U.S. most people have nostalgia about popular music. I am now listening to Roberta Flack's "First Take." I loved this album the first time I heard it. Flack's musical background is from Black churches. And she sings some spirituals, but mostly she has an esoteric view of popular music and chooses wonderful pieces to sing. Here's the album if you haven't heard it. Over the 50 years I have been assembling a system, thanks to work bonuses and inheritences, I've put together a good system. Nothing at the stratospheric top, but something that sounds very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDUk9Lsy_yQ&list=PLNPGM2D7aODfCsJa2fNQqXpbkHF_OeOMl

I’m guessing that your definition of spirituality goes beyond Christianity.

It include Christianity or any other cultural expression...

Some didgeridoo is sacred music for me as well as Hildegard of Bingen ...

 

And no i did not grow in Russia. I love Russian musicians especially their pianist school and vocal tradition  ...

 

 For me i love musicians more than music. musicians are music...

It is why i dont bother with styles or genres but more about specific musician ...

  Any music rooted in spirit or rooted in the Earth soul is sacred music and i love it more than anything else ...

 As an exemple by Michael Nyman and some fabulous Indians musicians : 

 

Sangam part 1:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM21rkt09Wc&list=RDKM21rkt09Wc&start_radio=1

part 2 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGXWprHynaM&list=RDiGXWprHynaM&start_radio=1

part 3 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMneS1AH-ag&list=RDNMneS1AH-ag&start_radio=1

I love Sun Ra, Chet Baker, and Bill Evans, among others because there is something spiritual in their musical expression...Not because it is jazz...

If it was only show even extraordinary show i will loose interest...

 You cannot listen for a show  so good it is hundred times without being bored...

 Music with spiritual content never bore if you repeat it ...

 

 

 Here the not well known music written by a Bulgarian spiritual seer, Peter Deunov,  200  songs free ...I dont have this except on youtube ...

It is powerful listening with joy as the main core : 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGM-akmf4GA&list=PLTNypuLgY9fEdocDWHrOUhytEIvK0GxhZ&index=2

 

Here the musician control of his expression is exquisite and blossom in pure poetry... 

Poetry grounded in the earth is sacred music... Especially in Japan...

Nanae Yoshimura is an accomplished musician in my book : 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSkcW5w_L1o&list=RDEMPhufCzTLZo7gvhJXL9y9ng&start_radio=1&rv=L6VWwnbjE_Y