Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

@mahgister 

I don’t have time to read all the books you throw out. I’m writing and researching a novel. But inherent in what you say, it seems to me, that you believe that your experience of music is at a "higher" level than others. 

I dont "trow out books" these are akll articles of science or acoustics linked to music...

 

I presume if you write a book you are not in the crowd and dont despise someone who think...

must i apologize to suffest content articles and reflections ? 

 

You make innuendos about my behaviour and posts suggesting  that my "taste rule" over everyone... This is "ad hominem" attacks...

I expressed in this thread and communicate links of music in all genres and styles from West or East or Africa, save commercial pop chart...

Instead of trying to understand my point you dismiss it by these  ad himinem attacks..

I am a "snob"  who impose his taste...

Are you serious ? 

 

 

 

This is a definition of Time in music by Google A.I.  which i can use to fix the idea : 
 
 
 
«In music, time primarily refers to concepts like tempo, time signature, and meter, which define the speed and structure of musical pieces. Tempo indicates the speed of the music (e.g., 60 BPM means 60 beats per minute), while time signature specifies how many beats are in each measure and what type of note represents a single beat. Meter is the underlying pattern of stressed and unstressed beats.  More detailed breakdown:
 
1. Tempo:
  • Tempo is the speed of the music, often measured in beats per minute (BPM).
  • A higher BPM indicates a faster tempo, and a lower BPM indicates a slower tempo.
  • For example, 60 BPM means one beat per second, while 120 BPM means two beats per second. 
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  • The time signature is a musical notation that indicates the meter of a piece. 
3. Meter:
  • Meter is the pattern of stressed and unstressed beats in a piece of music. 
4. Beat and Pulse:
  • The beat is the basic unit of time in music, a regular rhythmic pulse. 
5. Other Related Concepts:
  • Measure/Bar: A segment of time corresponding to one cycle of the time signature. 
  • It typically appears at the beginning of a musical score as two numbers stacked on top of each other, like a fraction. The top number indicates how many beats are in each measure (or bar). The bottom number indicates what type of note gets one beat.
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  • For example, in 4/4 time, there are four beats per measure, and a quarter note gets one beat. It is closely related to the time signature, which defines the basic rhythmic framework. 
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  • Simple meters (like 4/4 or 3/4) have a regular pattern of strong and weak beats. Compound meters (like 6/8 or 12/8) have a more complex rhythmic structure. The pulse is the underlying, steady beat that the music follows. In most music, the beat corresponds to the note value indicated by the time signature’s bottom number, though it can also be a grouping of those note values.
  • Rhythm: The overall pattern of sounds and silences in music. 
  • Rubato: A flexible approach to tempo where the performer can speed up or slow down the music.
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  • Phrase: A musical sentence or idea that is usually defined by its length
 
 
 
Now  this definition of time in music as measurable in some way as described by A.I.  we must add the concept of "musical time" as non measurable, non linear,  resulting from the gesture of the musician (rubato does not catch it all ) gesture which try to catch trough the "timbre"effect mastery of the instrument something which is an information about the instrument physical state qualities and something a time-like information about  the musician body state  itself vibrating with the instrument and something else, an information about the written music interpretation and meaning.
 
 That is musical time which transcend measured time  and this is is where is the "spiritual depth " of music...Between timbre of the vibratings sound sources (musician+instrument) , their time dimensions, measurable and non measurable,
 
I dont throw ad hominem arguments by the way...I like to think with others of good faith...
 And yes my posts are sometimes long...
 You can add this to "snobism" ...

Thanks for the poem i appreciate it...

Composite Things

 

 

Suddenly you find yourself

for some unknown reason

staring at the ground

& there is only dirt.

 

You fall to your hands &

knees & start digging

fascinated by the bits of

rock & detritus

yesterday’s litter

mixed with things from

the earliest beginnings.

 

Then you pick

up a rock to brush

it off, some common composite

thing, but the whirling

striations have caught your

eye so you fall into an

enchantment wondering how

all these bits of sparkle

swirling with white &

brown ever got

compressed into a package

so small

& how that has come into

your flesh-pink hand

at this very  moment

with the sky just as it

is overhead, tilted

slightly away.

 

Everything freezes together

& stops for that moment,

the universe itself

a composite stone

& you sparkling

deep in its center.

 

 I like poetry for so long as i can remember, to be specific  with Baudelaire when i was thirteen.  I will gave mine i just wrote yesterday  in french translated by A.I. :

As dead as alive
drink the ocean salt
that thirst endures

Winter’s hand
burns in my still
clenched fist until summer

Stirring of the waters:
a whale emerging
from my moist eyes

My animal father
and my plant mother
speak with golden voices

Joy is a cry
heard only by the silence
of tender hearts

Come the season:
Poetry without quarantine
 of our dazzled hearts

The pine needle
in my open mouth dreams
that it is a green loaf

The hole in the wheel
is that single cog
playing without being there

Sharp philosopher:
the blued rhododendron
speaks without being bitter

The tiny infinite grows
still, sleeps with closed fists,
In the open hand

I am a banker,
says the tiny turtle
I already have change

Whether worth or whatever
they must do
Comes the unexpected

The heartbreaker
 of the worthless heart is this boredom
 never to be cured

That being said, and I've probably pissed you off, in the latest Absolute Sound, there is a long writeup on Brazilian music and great recordings of Brazilian music. I know we share that love.

Thanks for the link... I will go to see it ...

I am moved by Villa- Lobos... And some Fado influenced voice of Brazil...

@larsman 

I agree that everybody has their own musical taste. And I think it's all good because music of all types "soothes the soul."