Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

Much conflict  is the result of generalizations. Big ones make for big misunderstanding.

Here a real issue is how general equal is without specifics. It means the same... but unspecified it is a grenade. So, use the word and one person thinks power one thinks intelligence... or one height and one strength... etc. Women are clearly not the same... just look at a man and a women... do they look the same? Do they both bear children. So all this discussion is about specific generalized attributes. Power, leadership, etc. I would imagine one could have more meaningful... obviously not here... discussions on individual attributes. 

@ghdprentic

You're right. Not the place for it. I could probably start a forum on it since so many people have opinions and reactions, but Audiogon is probably not the place for that either.

I'm going to post a female singer who some of you might not be familiar with and others may be only familiar with her hits sung by her or others, like "Stone Cold Picnic." I have chosen a song that many of you might not have heard of. Try not to reject her off the bat. I went to see her live before she died (at 52, I think), and Madonna and Warren Beaty were in the row behind me. I think Madonna admired Laura Nyro as the real deal. And she was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_FIK2oyiCs

I'm going to post one more. I heard about Laura Nyro in the early seventies. I was teaching high school students and a few of the girls came to me and said they'd been to a Laura Nyro concert and she blew them away. I have always listened to women when it came to music and art. It's opened up the other half of the world to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08oLOHVDEYc

@ghdprentice 

Where would you start the forum and what would you call it? IMHO, modern attitudes toward women do not go deep enough. It's as if we're color blind trying to talk about color. Our entire thinking process, the development of our logic, science, and philosopy are all involved, again IMHO. 

The book @mahgister recommended to me talks about societal perspectives. The lens through which we see things. He says that the reason Cortez was able to conquer Montezuma was because of their mindsets. The Aztecs thought as one and that was conducive to magic and spells. When they tried magic and spells on the Spaniards, who had learned about individual thought, they did not work. He also talks about how art developed perspective during the Renaissance. People did not see perspective prior to that. And so their conception of space was entirely different than ours. Today, we are beginning to see space and time as connected.

We have almost totally suppressed what I call the Feminine Creative Spirit, and it would take a long time to explain why I call it that. Partly it has to do with modern physics. Would you want to go that deeply? And if so, how would that be reflected in what you call the forum?