Flatscreen between speakers

shooter41

richardbrand

I understand how your processors and you SOLVE the lack of a center channel speaker.

IF possible, try a small center channel rather than skipping it, that is my advice to anyone following. 

After so many years of prioritizing and enjoying excellent 2 channel imaging in my dedicated listening system, and many years of improving TV sound, (starting with old CRTs I hot wired decent speakers to, the fidelity was always there), I am very sensitive to sound that is erroneously off-center of a visual image, especially dialog meant to be centered, or off-center dialog not originating from the correct location.

A common issue is a TV above a fireplace, no center speaker. My wife and sister-in-law house/pet sit for many wealthy people, and I check out the home theaters of many of them. I shake my head at the poor sound so many have.

My Small 5.1 Home Theater

I am left handed and sit on the left end of the sofa (some but not far off center), near my end table, coffee warmer, coaster, kleenex, box of remotes, left side wall ....

Donna, right handed, is at the right end, her coffee warmer ... no right wall. No one normally sits, or needs to sit dead center in my setup due to two factors

1. DBX Soundfield 100 Cross Pattern Dispersion is designed to create a WIDE phantom center image of any 2 channel material (I often 'force' 2 channel),

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2. using a Center Channel Speaker (even a small one) physically anchors the center to the center of the image no matter where you sit, because if you rely on Phantom Center, and you sit off-center, it is not going to work as well as sound ORIGINATING from the center. Off-center dialog will have some Phantom Off-Center mix by the originators, which assumes a center speaker,

I am happier with the smaller Jamo, the Klipsch was just too efficient, even after software adjustments

In my office, 2 channel, all center Phantom, I re-configured everything so I could sit dead center for the 1st time ever.

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@mihorn.  I am not sure your point about natural sound in the video. Sometimes my wife and my daughter try to talk to me at the same time and I have difficulty understanding them. Is one of them NOT a natural sound? 

     Exactly. We can enjoy many natural sounds at same time without much effort. Ex. Women chat with friends and enjoy the live music in the live band cafe. However, to listen the un-natural sound (like the left speaker in the comparison video), we must change something in our body (ears, eyes, and brain). Each time we hear un-natural sound to natural sound, vice versa, we must change the hearing mode. And it’s hard for brain and bad for health.

     My system is natural sound and I am always in natural sound mode. And I don't like listen un-natural sound system like before. I can still change to un-natural sound mode, but I don’t like do it because it is very uncomfortable action (like spit my eyes out and widen my eyes to suck into between 2 speakers). It’s called the immersive sound. I must listen un-natural sounds some times but I feel like un-natural sound sucks out my life.  Alex/Wavetouch

@richardbrand 

“Could you please list where you see the incompatibilities?”

My experience is My Experience. The List includes (but is not limited to) HT and HiFi “things” I have learned to no longer waste time, effort and/or resources on…

Low efficiency speakers, low impedance speakers, subwoofers, encode/decode protocols, extraneous wiring, room reflection issues (proper room treatment is of Primary Importance), screen reflection, multi speaker radiation interaction, digital glare, inadequate digital “sound processing “… I could go on but to what point?

My experience had lead me to organize my audio systems thusly…I have my HT system in the living room (where it belongs) and the 2 channel in a dedicated room (where it belongs). High efficiency, Large Full Range speakers, custom electronics (almost exclusively hand assembled), science guided room treatments and as few wires and connections as possible. 

@mihorn. I think something is getting lost in translation. Please read my response again. I said I have DIFFICULTY understanding them and you said: exactly. For the record, you are proposing a solution for a problem that I don’t have. My system sounds very natural. Thanks.