Critical listening and altered states


Ok, this is not a question about relaxing, but about listening to evaluate how the system (or a piece of gear is sounding).

What, in your experience, are the pluses and minuses of altering your state of mind for listening? This can include anything you've used to affect your everyday state of mind, from coffee, beer, scotch, tobacco, to much stronger — and psychoactive, dissociative — additives.

What do you gain by altering your consciousness in terms of what you notice, attend to, linger on, etc?
What causes more details to emerge?
What allows you to stick with a thread or, alternately, make new connections?

Or perhaps you like to keep all those things *out* of your listening; if that's you, please say a bit about why.

hilde45

@newton_john Great post! I experienced a number of recurring visions as a young child, this to the point I acted out on at least one. Music has also long induced ASC for me, I have very clear memories of specific events and/or feelings I had when hearing certain songs from back in the day, this goes beyond mere nostalgia.

 

My experimentation with using various substances was very much an attempt to replicate the spontaneous and natural ASC. I was very ritualistic and intentional in my use of peyote, LSD (very likely the real Owsley stuff), shrooms, hashish, honey/hash oil. Mostly I used these substances only in natural surroundings, being out in nature is inherent ASC inducer, these substances further heightened ASC. All the stereotypes of feeling as one with the universe are not wrong! The only other time I enjoyed trips was attending certain musical concerts, repeatedly with Frank Zappa, Chick Corea, Weather Report, well remember a laserium presentation of Pink Floyd's "Live at Pompeii" .

 

In any case, haven't done mind altering psychedelics in decades, but listening to my present system, this after decades of building it to this level, probably most replicates those 'highs' from back in the day.

 

I'm also easily hypnotized, had some friends into Earhard Seminars Training back in the day, they'd bring home tapes, have to say they were mind altering to some extent. Also had friends into Wicca,  met some very powerful, charismatic people through them. Also knew people in the 'Children of God' movement. I can understand the lure of cults in that they can often induce ASC in certain susceptible people. Although I dabbled in the above I always kept my distance more an observer rather than a participant,  I've always liked to think of myself as something like Argus, the all seeing creature from Greek mythology. Maintaining a certain objectivity while at the same time participating can bring about it's own sense of mind alteration and wonder. As an aside, love 'Argus' release from Wishbone Ash.

I enjoy my "medical" cannabis for music appreciation but in relatively small doses. Being "wrecked" on the stuff wrecks the music or rather wrecks concentration. Mild sessions wave off repetitive thoughts and other neurotic "loops" and also give the music the same sort qualities we ascribe to tube amps i.e "euphonious distortion." Weed and a tube amp in the chain are for me the best sort of musical symbiosis. Interestingly, if music does not have PRAT I can hear that whether stoned or sober; so I don't think a cannabis high is necessarily an obstruction or degeneracy.

A new discovery for me has been Lion's Mane mushroom extracts. Ingestion of this material improves focus and concentration while also relaxing you. It is like an extremely mild stone, or a very vague stone if you will that can be a bit of an oompf  for music appreciation and maybe moreso when taken with a little cannabis.

Lion's Mane Mushroom is wildly popular for enhancing cognition especially so for people such as myself who are entering their "golden years"

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DKZZFCE?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

 

My headphone listening  are increased in focus in the dark with salt lamp to create atmosphere (orange color) but eyes opened....

I "see" music....

The rare occasion i take THC i can see music also exactly like a movie with abstracts dynamics...

Sound  (acceptable S.Q.) disappear to let music spoke in geometrical fractals patterns...

If i take nothing i "see" patterns also but in a less concrete way...

I always prefer if the headphone or the speakers are good  acoustically listening with eyes opened because i see better the patterns, or the instruments...

 

Now i had an acceptable sound quality level satisfaction, sound does not distract me from music... That was my goal in my audio journey, not reaching the best system which is out of my budget but the optimal acoustic level with what i own...

 

@hilde45 

Thank you for starting this thread, thus giving me the opportunity to spew out all my thoughts on altered states of consciousness.

Someone once told me that ideas are worthless unless communicated. I also find that that they are better out than in for the sake of my peace of mind.

What started out as a reflection on the virtues of vinyl records became a learning opportunity for me. Also, it’s enabled me to join up some more of the dots in my life.

Sorry post was so long. I edited out most of the personal recollections. Otherwise it would have been twice the size.

I bet you didn’t think your thread would be coming back to life four years later.

 

 

 

@larsman 

Thanks. Glad to hear cannabis is still doing it for you.

I sometimes think about trying it again. Unfortunately, my wife would not approve because she thinks it could get her struck off as a nurse.