About users with hidden agendas

Anybody pretending to know how is the sound of a system exactly by contemplating image of the gear without listening to the room acoustic is deluded....

or he sell gear and upgrade...

An acoustician dont look the gear to bash it or praise it, he listen to the room....

I am only a regular guy able to experiment in my dedicated room and this is the only essential fact i learned....

Nobody can prove me wrong about that....

I already look at one million dollars bling system that seems awful because of the ROOM....mIne is 500 bucks.... I dont pretend it is better , i do pretend that price tag means way less than acoustic....

Then pretending to know what is the real s.q. of a system without listening the acoustic seetings is meaningless...

Saying that a Sansui or a McIntosh amplifier are bad or low S.Q. or the reverse without listening them in a very good acoustically controlled room is also meaningless.. Some audiophiles called this ignorance a "taste"....

But nobody could ever know what will be the s.q difference . of the gear before and after a rightfull acoustic embeddings treatment and control...

Then taste are only that : taste, and they may change....

Acoustic dont change...Why?

Because it is the way to bent the room in relation to the specific needs of the gear and speakers using your specific ears to tune the relation...

Acoustic is a process ......Not a taste...

I use a combo of these:

there are many people who view music as as a tool for evaluating their systems.

which are very much a statement of their being related to the validation process..

And  …

Then pretending to know what is the real s.q. of a system without listening the acoustic seetings is meaningless...

Basically if I can get the little lady to play pretend or dress-up, and start prancing around the living room with a horned viking helmet acting out the shield-maiden role while playing Wagner, or dress-up in a Kimono when i play Madame Butterfly (but replacing the sepaku for the final scene), then THAT is also a good measure of listening success.

There is nothing in common between the room acoustic where we listen Puccini

and wearing a kimono to increase our perception of the music...

Then assimilating the two is only that : a joke...

By the way my audio journey is completed i listen music not my system...

I never bought anything nor any upgrade save the basic gear i own...

I am here for some friends and advising and learning about the key problem in audio :acoustic.... And also speaking about my low cost solutions..

i can also use a COMBO of your post and any other people post, mixing them and make a cheap joke at your expanse... .

Easy...

but i dont do that ....I dont need to .... Guess why?

It is because mocking others is not the best way to keep the appearence of being wise especially if we are not so much wise to begin with....

I use a combo of these:

there are many people who view music as as a tool for evaluating their systems.

which are very much a statement of their being related to the validation process..

And …

Then pretending to know what is the real s.q. of a system without listening the acoustic seetings is meaningless...

Basically if I can get the little lady to play pretend or dress-up, and start prancing around the living room with a horned viking helmet acting out the shield-maiden role while playing Wagner, or dress-up in a Kimono when i play Madame Butterfly (but replacing the sepaku for the final scene), then THAT is also a good measure of listening success.

"This is down to set up, something you can quickly ascertain by looking at a photo"

This is another laughable nonsense.

How in the world can anyone ascertain a setup from a picture? Really? Do pictures now position you in a room and allow you to carefully listen the room’s acoustic signature and how well the speakers are positioned relatively to the listening position?

I wander what despicable assault @ted_denney will come up with🤣 to defend this nonsense

PS: for how long one does something has relative relevance on knowledge, one can be doing something for very long and doing it wrong all along.

I never denigrate The products mr. Denney sell, even after he mocked my old room...I only maintained that acoustic is way better than any "tweaks"...

I used myself many homemade tweaks resembling what he sell... I dont doubt that his tweaks are better than mine.... Why not?

I am alone he is not....He put money behind his tweak research not me...

I claim that no tweaks can replace acoustic treatment and control ever.... NONE..

Then he mocked my room without never giving me any argument .... i think he sense me to be a menacing truth for his products even if his product are directed to consumers who dont own a dedicated room anyway....Acoustic cannot be defeated by tweaks nor replaced by tweaks...Sorry...

He prove to me that what is important is not so much truth in audio but selling his devices first....it is understandable he is a seller ....

But i dont like to be treated that way with inunendo about my room...i put the images there to begin with i dont give a dam about what others think....many mocked my room already... But i dont accept that in a public  discussion...