Science that explains why we hear differences in cables?


Here are some excerpts from a review of the Silversmith Audio Fidelium speaker cables by Greg Weaver at Enjoy The Music.com. Jeff Smith is their designer. I have not heard these cables, so I don’t have any relevant opinion on their merit. What I find very interesting is the discussion of the scientific model widely used to design cables, and why it may not be adequate to explain what we hear. Yes it’s long, so, to cut to the chase, I pulled out the key paragraph at the top:


“He points out that the waveguide physics model explains very nicely why interconnect, loudspeaker, digital, and power cables do affect sound quality. And further, it can also be used to describe and understand other sonic cable mysteries, like why cables can sound distinctly different after they have been cryogenically treated, or when they are raised off the floor and carpet.”


“One of the first things that stand out in conversation with Jeff about his cables is that he eschews the standard inductance/capacitance/resistance/impedance dance and talks about wave propagation; his designs are based solely upon the physics model of electricity as electromagnetic wave energy instead of electron flow.


While Jeff modestly suggests that he is one of only "a few" cable designers to base his designs upon the physics model of electricity as electromagnetic wave energy instead of the movement, or "flow," of electrons, I can tell you that he is the only one I’ve spoken with in my over four decades exploring audio cables and their design to even mention, let alone champion, this philosophy.


Cable manufacturers tend to focus on what Jeff sees as the more simplified engineering concepts of electron flow, impedance matching, and optimizing inductance and capacitance. By manipulating their physical geometry to control LCR (inductance, capacitance, and resistance) values, they try to achieve what they believe to be the most ideal relationship between those parameters and, therefore, deliver an optimized electron flow. Jeff goes as far as to state that, within the realm of normal cable design, the LRC characteristics of cables will not have any effect on the frequency response.


As this is the very argument that all the cable flat-Earther’s out there use to support their contention that cables can’t possibly affect the sound, it seriously complicates things, almost to the point of impossibility, when trying to explain how and why interconnect, speaker, digital, and power cables have a demonstrably audible effect on a systems resultant sonic tapestry.


He points out that the waveguide physics model explains very nicely why interconnect, loudspeaker, digital, and power cables do affect sound quality. And further, it can also be used to describe and understand other sonic cable mysteries, like why cables can sound distinctly different after they have been cryogenically treated, or when they are raised off the floor and carpet.


As such, his design goal is to control the interaction between the electromagnetic wave and the conductor, effectively minimizing the phase errors caused by that interaction. Jeff states that physics says that the larger the conductor, the greater the phase error, and that error increases as both the number of conductors increase (assuming the same conductor size), and as the radial speed of the electromagnetic wave within the conductor decreases. Following this theory, the optimum cable would have the smallest or thinnest conductors possible, as a single, solid core conductor per polarity, and should be made of metal with the fastest waveform transmission speed possible.


Jeff stresses that it is not important to understand the math so much as it is to understand the concept of electrical energy flow that the math describes. The energy flow in cables is not electrons through the wire, regardless of the more common analogy of water coursing through a pipe. Instead, the energy is transmitted in the dielectric material (air, Teflon, etc.) between the positive and negative conductors as electromagnetic energy, with the wires acting as waveguides. The math shows that it is the dielectric material that determines the speed of that transmission, so the better the dielectric, the closer the transmission speed is to the speed of light.


Though electromagnetic energy also penetrates into and through the metal conductor material, the radial penetration speed is not a high percentage of the speed of light. Rather, it only ranges from about 3 to 60 meters per second over the frequency range of human hearing. That is exceptionally slow!


Jeff adds, "That secondary energy wave is now an error, or memory, wave. The thicker the conductor, the higher the error, as it takes longer for the energy to penetrate. We interpret (hear) the contribution of this error wave (now combined with the original signal) as more bloated and boomy bass, bright and harsh treble, with the loss of dynamics, poor imaging and soundstage, and a lack of transparency and detail.


Perhaps a useful analogy is a listening room with hard, reflective walls, ceilings, and floors and no acoustic treatment. While we hear the primary sound directly from the speakers, we also hear the reflected sound that bounces off all the hard room surfaces before it arrives at our ears. That second soundwave confuses our brains and degrades the overall sound quality, yielding harsh treble and boomy bass, especially if you’re near a wall.


That secondary or error signal produced by the cable (basically) has the same effect. Any thick metal in the chain, including transformers, most binding posts, RCA / XLR connectors, sockets, wire wound inductors, etc., will magnify these errors. However, as a conductor gets smaller, the penetration time decreases, as does the degree of phase error. The logic behind a ribbon or foil conductor is that it is so thin that the penetration time is greatly reduced, yet it also maintains a large enough overall gauge to keep resistance low.”


For those interested, here is more info from the Silversmith site, with links to a highly technical explanation of the waveguide model and it’s relevance to audio cables:


https://silversmithaudio.com/cable-theory/


tommylion
@kevn 

Our ability to differentiate between sounds is both an innate ability as well as a learned one. It is difficult to imagine a scenario where the learned ability can transcend the biological limitations we we born with. I’m not certain we understand fully what those limits are. 
And I believe that our abilities are continuing to evolve based on our external stimulus. Now, if one chooses to not exercise those abilities, learn how to use them, then no, there is a limited benefit. Much like some people are unable to tell the difference between two similar, yet different scotches, or red wine, or Vodka. Yet, most of us can. 
Went to a whiskey bar. One would think that you would serve something other than whiskey at such a place so the one person who doesn’t like it, can choose something different. I went to such a bar, and ordered a particular kind of Vodka. The bartender informed me they don’t serve vodka, because the owner insisted it all tastes the same… Well, talk about discrediting your whiskey bar…

@djones51In fact Belden does own the patents of Galen’s designs for cables in the Iconoclast catalog. 
To the old dudes spending >$500 on cables, I have genuine questions for you. Please see below and thank you for your time:
1. Do you ever second guess why you just spent an absurd amount of money on a piece of non-precious wire?
2. Do you / your partner use the cables in ways outside of the audio world? 3. Did you ever spend thousands on cables when you could’ve put that towards your son/daughters college? Did you ever think maybe you should’ve helped your child pay for college instead of blowing your paycheck on ridiculous speaker cables?
4. Do you maintain good relationships offline?
5. Have you ever wondered how it’s possible for modern science to defy expectations year after year within other electricity-related realms, building more efficient and powerful lithium ion batteries, all-electric cars can go from 0-60 in <2 seconds and do that for 300+ miles before having to take a quick 30 min break to charge up and repeat….time and time again the naysayers are proven wrong and a better rendition of the lithium ion battery is developed, new technologies are employed and measured via scientific methods…….sorry I got off track…..do you ever wonder why scientists can’t seem to crack the case wide open on these darn speaker cables???????? MY EEEEAAARRRRRSSS I HEARRRR A DIFFERENCEEEE…no you don’t. We have super computers now doing much more complex shit. Drop the age old pseudoscience and just admit you like the way those cables feel in your hands. I can say all of the above, and for some reason there will be days I’ll spend hours looking at cables. Not because I think they’re going to sound better though…there’s just something about a nice shiney silver speaker cable that draws me in. 
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Also interesting is that what is seen on the scope matches what is heard from different cables. Impedance mismatches do seem to create ringing distortion. This colors instrumental tones and textures, alters characteristic instrumental timbre, and so the less of it the better

The guys using a Time Domain Reflectometer machine to fix the internet yesterday did exactly that.

But the speed of light and the speed of electrons is about 3e8 m/secs, and the speed of sound is about 3e2 m.sec, so roughy a million times different.

Those ringing waves and echos would need to be caught in a crossover or something like a capacitor or inductor to hold them long enough to be around to be heard.
(Or am I missing something?)


I think I’ll just try and keep my cables short by keeping my amp close to speaker.

Plus most speakers do not have special cables inside of them, and nor do the amplifiers, so unless the speaker cables are a lot longer, then I am sort of stuck with the sonics of what is in the speaker and amplifier.

Even those plate amps like Hypex and Purify have normal wires and they just hook up to the normal wires that grace the drivers.