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O-10, I really would prefer to move on, but I won’t be accused of not being truthful.  Can we move on now, please?  Peace.

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orpheus10 OP8,380 posts
06-16-2016 4:11pm

Frogman, if you are going to correct someone, you had better get your facts straight; especially if that someone is "Orpheus".

The "Forest Flower" I presented was the one with "The Chico Hamilton Quintet"; a photograph of the players is on the cover of the album: Chico Hamilton is striding across the cover, and Buddy Collette is kneeling with his horns in front of him, while Jim Hall, has his guitar on his knee; that's just the top row of photographs, the rest of the players are in the second row.

   
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF_Kwdmg1Cg



Here it is again, for your pleasure; this time, check the photo's on the album cover.




Enjoy the music.

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frogman6,276 posts
06-16-2016 5:22pm

That is incorrect: the recording that plays when you play the YouTube link that you provided is from a different recording than shown by that album cover. This was a mistake by the poster of that link; and you.  That album cover is for a recording titled "Spectacular" Featuring Buddy Collette. "Forest Flower" doesn’t even appear on that record. Most importantly, two seconds in and one can tell that it’s not Buddy Collette playing, but Lloyd instead.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chico_Hamilton_Quintet_featuring_Buddy_Collette

The recording in that YouTube link that you provided (with the wrong album cover) is from a recording titled "Man From Two Worlds".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_from_Two_Worlds

Can we stop now, O-10?

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Keegiam, good record. That one is also one of my favorite CTI’s as is most of what Hubbard and Stanley Turrentine did for the label. Here’s another CTI that I like. Then again, I love everything that Desmond did.  Sweetest ever alto tone.  (and speaking of “Sky” 😉):

https://youtu.be/gbAbD27ZNKM

(Btw, sometime later you yourself posted “Forrest Flower” claiming it was Buddy Collette on tenor; but that’s a different story).


What you posted that I said is stupid beyond words. Why would I say something that moronic. What you posted is not even worthy of discussion.

With all the silly arguing over silly stuff we have neglected to post (again 😉) the version of “Forrest Flower” on the tune’s composer Charles Lloyd’s debut recording as a leader.  Interesting contrast to the version that O-10 posted which I like very much and that Lloyd recorded about a year or so earlier as a member of Chico Hamilton’s quintet.  Btw, also interesting to note that on the Chico Hamilton record all the tunes except one are by Lloyd.  Not surprising that a year later he would strike out as leader in his own right.  This version is more earnest and his playing showing a more obvious Coltrane influence.  

https://youtu.be/HK4H6k6PRXQ

This other version is the first time I heard the tune.  Lloyd’s live recording at Montreaux features a 21 year old Keith Jarrett.  Somehow, its more gentle approach to the melody, if not so much the improvisations, seems more evocative of the tune’s title:

https://youtu.be/qOGqAvElCAs

Since I heard the "original", that's the one I like best.