Esoteric DV-50: Any cdp's Significantly better?


Is there are anyone out there who has compared the Esoteric DV-50 to a number of dedicated red book only players (or other universal's) and found one that is SIGNIFICANTLY better?

I stress significantly because in my humble opinion the redbook playback (if comparison unit is just a cd cd player only )must be significantly better to justify losing DVD-A, SACD and DVD-Video capability.

I keep hearing there are better one box solutions and being a die hard 2 channel fan I would sell my DV-50 if I found a player in the same price range that sounds significantly better. But every time I do an AB comparision to other well respected units the DV-50 has slayed each and every one.

So far, it has eaten the lunch of the Classe CDP-10, Ayre CX-7, Linn Ikemi, Cairn Fog Vers. 2, Cary 306/300, Arcam DV 27A and CD 33T, Myryad CD 600, etc. It even betters a Sony SCD 777ES/MF Tri-Vista 21 transport/dac combo that I previously owned. I'm only comparing the DV-50 to single box cd or universal players, but I just wanted to mention the Sony/MF combo. I'm sure there are some dac/transport combo's that will handily beat the DV 50.

Some may say that the DV 50 should beat all the above because the of price point ($5,500 vs. average price of $3,000 for the above players). But I disagree since conventional wisdom says that stand alone players (especially with the pedigree of those mentioned above) should produce better redbook than a universal player trying to be a jack of all trades. Only the DV 27A does video plus audio. By the way, I was very impressed with the 27A as just a cd player. Of all the above I would say the Ayre was the best.

Next on my list is the Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP and the Resolution Audio Opus 21. However, I must tell you I am really impressed with the DV 50 and all the great reviews are absolutely true. I've noticed that many people who are using it or comparing to other players are using the RCA analog outs instead of the balanced outs. There is a significant improvement in sound if you use the balanced outs and I'm only interested in hearing comments from people who have compared it against other players using the balanced outs on the DV-50.

My system components are as follows:

B&W N803's speakers & HTM-1 center
Cary Cinema 5 (5 x 200) amp
Anthem D1 Statement pre/pro
Esoteric DV 50
Acoustic Zen Satori Shotgun speaker wire
Nirvana SX balanced interconnects from DV-50 to Anthem
Acoustic Zen Matrix reference II interconnects from D1 to Cary
No after market power cords or isolation equipment

My system sounds great! Those who comment please make sure to specify what specific improvements you heard over the DV 50 and what cdp were you comparing it against.

AVGURU
avguru
Medea dac and CEC transport combo. This combo beats ANY sacd/dvd-a players out there and does that with redbook cd's.
Alex and all other modifier on the thread, Teac is also OEMming a version of its VRDS transport. Wadia is apparently using it. Have you considered creating your own branded player using this OEM transport? Given what you have already done with Children Of Lesser Gods, your magic applied to the top TEAC transport may become absolutely unbeatable.
Steve,

I beg to differ that I don't understand "the technical aspects of digital audio". I am very confident in what I do know. And as I told Alex I'm not going to engage in any more technical chatter as it takes this thread away from its intended purpose. Alex has offered to submit to me additional information and pictures to justify his position.
We have ended our differences and I look forward to hearing his conclusions on whether or not he can use the DV 50 as a platform for one of his re-designs.

I'll just keep my "wild tales" to myself. Please make sure you do the same as I've never heard from you before nor has your name appeared on this thread previous to this. Your comments are unsolicited and very unnecessary at this point. If you are not bringing anything positive or worthwhile to the table don't bring anything at all!

AVGURU
irishdog,

When is the McIntosh universal scheduled to be released? Also, do you know what price point they're targeting? Will it include video?

AVGURU
Guidocorona and others who sugested using the VRDS; Thank you I appreciate it! I have already thought about it, but it will take substantial investment in building a player like that. I am personaly thinking of re-designing X-01 first and see what it will bring me. Oh well, may be some day...:-)

Regards,
Alex