too bad Audiogon seems to have morphed to fussy, picky buyers


For years I've bought and sold here with no drama but that seems to have been changing. Now sellers seem to want retail pricing for their products while wanting to low ball on anything they want to buy.

At the same time I see more and more fussy buyers nitpicking the purchase, requiring tons of hand holding and concessions after they buy a fairly represented good working order item. 

No longer fun for me unfortunately.
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Only local cash and carry sales for me as of 18 months ago! Totally disgusted with PayPal scammers and low ballers wasting our time with offers less than 25% retail, even for current iteration gear. Agree that I’d rather keep or gift my used gear rather than reward these jerks or have my payment again reversed by PayPal. Also agree that it’s not only Audiogon. That said, I’ve had more quality buyers on US AudioMart although responses are much slower, sales often taking 6 months or more.
Sellers blaming Audiogon for the customer and market? 

If if you don’t have a good product at a fair price then guess what....

Just the other day I encountered a dealer wanted only 30% off of list price for 10 year old amplifier. As a negitiation tactic I was offered 2.5% discount if I paid cash. I kindly explained that I can find a new (less than 1 year) one for only 5% more and the new one would not be dinged up with deep scratches where the paint on the chassis was rubbed off. The same amp is still listed two months later....price dropped 2%...it will probably list for 9 to 18 months before sale with incremental discounts of 2% each month. 

Classic example of seller knows better than the market or buyer.....

That has not been my experience with Agon at all.  I've been on here since 2001 and have bought and sold a bunch of equipment.  I have never had a problem, either as a buyer or a seller.  When I recently sold some gear, did I get some lowball offers? Sure.  I either ignored them or politely responded that the offer was too low for me to consider.  You can't fault someone for trying to get the best price that they can, no more than you can fault a seller for asking for top dollar.  You never know when someone just wants to unload something.  I'm not insulted by a lowball offer, nor should anyone else be insulted.  Just ignore it.  I personally think that Agon is doing a great job in facilitating the used high end audio market.  Try using USAudiomarket or eBay.  Not even close.
This is a great conversation. I am considering selling some of my unused gear and it is good to have a heads up. I have been buying used  high end gear for 25 years and have never had a problem with a seller. I recently purchased my second Counterpoint SA-1000 preamp in pristine condition for $400. Part of the fun is troubleshooting and tweaking to get the best out of your system. Maybe some of the new audiophiles do not have the patience...
Shadorne.

Sorry but when you have a great product at an already very fair price and you STILL get offers at 50% of your asking price (or less in a couple of instance) then it would try the patience of a saint.
And usually this has been accompanied by many irreverent emails even when you politely tell them their offer is not acceptable to but the product.
In general the whole attitude from buyers has changed considerably over the past 20 years with rudeness and brusque arrogance being all too common.