Experimenting with reversing polarity to speakers


Using a single pair of Clear Day double shotguns terminated with bananas feeding Totem Forest speakers. Am using Audioquest’s diagonal connection recommendation for bi-wireable speakers (see page 4 at link below;

"Using Full Range Cables On BiWire Capable Speakers"). Jumpers are also Clear Day wire.

http://www.audioquest.com/resource_tools/LearningMods/UndrstndgBiWr.pdf

Came across some comments on the web about experimenting with reversing the polarity of speaker cables at BOTH speakers...i.e., connecting red to negative and black to positive. Am NOT talking one speaker out of phase w/respect to the other. Both speakers are in phase with one another.

Having made the change, I did think stage depth immediately increased and imaging focus was improved. The improvement was on the order of installing better cabling, I’d say. I am NOT asking for explanations for the effect. I started the thread merely to suggest an "experiment" to those that might not have considered it before.
Cheap fun.

This topic has been discussed previously on A’gon and EXTENSIVELY in the 2010 thread below:
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/polarity-mystery-can-you-help-me-solve-it?highlight=sound%2Bi...

I readily admit it could be placebo (i.e., my imagination). Another well-regarded explanation relates to countering the effects of "out of phase recordings" (See Clark Johnson’s, The Wood Effect discussed at length on the Steve Hoffman forum and elsewhere). BUT the effect does seem to me to persist across multiple recordings (listening to various ripped CDs played off hard drive through Aries Mini>>Gungnir DAC>>Preamp>>Amp).

I’m inclined to think it’s related to some kind of room interaction and distance to listening point. More listening is needed to decide how consistent the benefit is. Of course, whatever the reason for it, the proof of it being a real improvement will be switching back to "proper" polarity after a few days and hearing a degradation in sound quality.

Best regards.


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"Many of you graduating today from Acme Audio Engineering School will go on to big things. The rest of you will become recording engineers." 😛
jsrtheta wrote,

"It is certainly best to keep polarity correct and consistent throughout the recording chain, and it is also recommended. But given the number of processes and amount of gear in modern recording it is difficult, and not a priority, to police polarity. Why not a priority? Because recording engineers don’t find polarity issues to be audible or important. I’ve never heard of an engineer listening to playback and leaping out of his chair yelling "Stop!" because the polarity was reversed. They can’t tell any better than anyone else.

See below for a random snip snip ✂️ from George Louis’ Polarity list of non inverting polarity N and reverse polarity R CDs and CD labels. You tell me, does this look random?

I hate to judge too quickly but it appears they are not "keeping the polarity correct and consistent throughout the recording chain." Obviously polarity must not be a priority. But then neither is dynamic range. I hate to,judge before all the facts are in but there appears to be quite a wide gap between what audiophiles consider good sound and what recording engineers consider good sound.

London N
M*A R
M*A Recordings – Bruce Stark, piano – Dream song R
MAD-KAT Records – Kitty Margolis – Live at The Jazz Workshop R
Mapleshade N
Mark Levinson – Red Rose Music-– Volume one R
Maxell Studio Series headphones R
MCA GRP – Rob Wasserman (etc.) – Trios R
MCA Zebra* – David Grisman Acousticity R
Mercury Living Presence R
Mercury R
MHS Musical Herritage Society N
Milestone –The Kenny Drew, Jr. Trio – Winter Flower R
MOBILE FIDELITY MFSL (Polydor original R) – Eric Clapton Slowhand R
MOBILE FIDELITY SOUND LAB ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDING ULTRA DISC UHR GAIN 2 –(hybrid SACD) Patricia Baber – Café Blue R
MOBILE FIDELITY SOUND LAB ULTRA DISC II (original Verve – R) – Getz/Gilberto R
MOBILE FIDELITY ULTRA DISC II SAMPLER – (multiple original CDs) MP
Mode 26 (Records) R
MOTOWN – Diana Ross – Lady Sings the Blues R
MSFL Original Master Recording – Jim Hall – Concierto R
Music from BMI*- BLUE NOTE – Patricia Barber – Live a Fortnight in France R
MuSick – Evan foster – Instrumentals R
N Coded Music N
Naim – Charlie Haden & John Taylor R
Nakamichi Bridiging Adaptor BA-100 N
Narada R
Narada Collection Series R
Nature Recordings R
NAXOS R
NEC CD-730, CD-830D CD players N
NEW WORLD RECORDS R
Nimbus Records English Stsring Orchestra – Mendelssohn Complete String symphonies R
Nonesuch R
Nonesuch – Mandy Patnkin – Oscar & Steve R
NOVUS (BMG RCA) – Marcus Roberts – The Truth s Spoken Here R
Oppo BDP-95 CD, DVD, SACD, DVD-A, Blu-ray player R
Opus 3 R
Opus 3 – Depth of Image Test Record 1 R