Single driver speakers - opinions

Hi T

Sorry for the delay in my response, as I haven't been visiting the board lately, and I would like to thank Pauly and Mariusz for their input. The new CarderSound models(Madison on down), are completely different than the DIY plans on Frugal-Horn, so a direct comparison would not help you. They are not even based on the Frugal-Horn designs except for their similar outward appearance.

For what it's worth, Pauly and Mariusz are exactly on the mark. To answer your question more directly, have no fear. In practice, most of the nulls shown in the graphs for the FH models will not exist -they're mainly caused by limitations in the software.

Hope this helps.

Best,
Jeff Carder
CarderSound

Single driver speakers sound great after you do the Absolute Phase tweak on them!

Listen to well design SD speakers and you will find it very hard to go in any other direction. Match it with SET amp and its seductive qualities andd you will be in heaven.
Build it yourself.....ahhhhhh , what a felling.
Seat pretty and enjoy the magic.

Jeff's line of SD speakers is the perfect exemple.(others too)
Is Jeff's design base on original Sachiko (Cardersound Madison)? I do not know and I do not care. What matters is that it is a fine speaker (As well as TyBone).
The point is, that when done right - it works.
Sure.......to get the most out of any design, one must pay atention to details and a lots of tweaking.
The fruit will show in sound to die for.

Jeff,
thanks for opportunity to audition the Madisons and TyBones.
They are awesome.

I am in the works to build my own Sachiko based speakers as well as another (new design(s)) SD speaker that hopefuly will turn heads.

I wish you well and hope to see you again sometimes.

Best
Mariusz

Apologies Jeff and thanks for your answer, I had read on other threads that the Madison was based on the Sachiko, and I remember a post several months ago by yourself saying that your then newly formed company was building speaker cabinets from the Spawn family plans on the Frugal Horn website. I was not aware that Madison had different internals than the Sachiko. I commend you for your commercial attitude towards the designers back then and admire that you have developed the internals of your boxes further.

Thanks for the comments. I thought the dips on the Spawn family plans website were perhaps spurious. That makes me feel quite a bit better.

No apologies necessary, T. They are very similar in their outward appearance, and it is easy to make those assumptions. The original models were exact to the plans for the Sachiko,and is one of the finest single horn designs I've heard. The original designer of those plans, Scott Lindgren from the UK, is also responsible for the upgraded design path/internals for the new CarderSound models. The difference is not subtle, and upon hearing the original version Madison, I was doubting that it could be made better, but Scott schooled me the day I built the first new version cabinet. In this case, I was very happy to be proven wrong. The new model line cabinets(v2)are the best performing horns I've heard. That doesn't mean there isn't better out there. I just haven't heard it.

But, make no mistake, Mariusz is on a mission. That boy just might come up with something really special. My hunch is he'll spend more time on tweaking than he did to build his new boxes. I get the distinct feeliing that he'll die tryin'. Right, Mariusz?

Thank you both for the kind comments. T, building your own pair is both fun and rewarding. Do it. There is little that can replace the feeling of firing up your boxes for the first time. They don't even have to look that good, to sound good. You should see my first pair. I wouldn't show them to anyone, but they make wonderful sound in my shop, and are a constant reminder to me of what I don't want them to look like...lol. Practice practice practice.

If you run into any stumbling blocks along the way, and develop any questions, please don't hesitate to get in touch with me through my web site. http://CarderSound.com/
I would be more than happy to assist you in any way I can. Good luck with everything.

Mariusz, I look forward to our next meeting. I just finished the center channel and the rear HT surrounds. I'll email you some pics when I get a chance.

You both take care till we chat again.

Best,
J