Where has the respect gone?


I have a middle of the road audio system. I built my own speakers with a Seas Odim kit, a Rogue 99 mag., a Esoteric DV-50, built my own 200 watt power amp, BPT 3.5 Signature Plus, upgraded Sansui TU-717, Revelation Audio Labs Testament speaker wire, HMS rca's and power cords and Virtual Dynamics Testament power cord and Soundstrings rca's too! I have many other pieces I am working on and trying to sell but I have started to notice a trend in some Audiogon members. It is kinda getting like other internet selling places, where there is no respect for each other. I am like everyone else and that I want the best deal but I try to be respectful to the seller or buyer. I have probably not been that to all and for that I am sorry and I ask your forgiveness. It seems like lately things are starting to change and I do not believe it is necessary to change. I have not been a member from the first but it makes no difference if I was the first member or the last member, just sign in we need to have respect for each other. I hate to see Audiogon turn into what some of the others are in lying and cheating for a dollar or just being rude. Let us all remember to respect the other person and let this stay a fun job, hobby or whatever it my be to you! Remember it starts with us all!
ezekiel
Thank you for your thread, Ezekiel. I've stayed off the forum threads lately for this very reason. Because other than some heartfelt words for the heroic Patrick Malone (Lugnut), there seems to be scores of people who are scouring the threads simply to attack other members and flex a bit of righteous mental muscle. Personally, I've got better places to be than in the middle of Vitriolville, but I too am hoping that this community will respond favorably to your requests.

All the best,
Howard
Ezekiel you are 100% correct,i had a member tell me to f... off after i refused his offer.

howard,ive noticed that too & ive also noticed that the muscle flexers & the grammer police seem to be the 1st to call somebodys gear "unresolving".

mike.
Ezekiel, I appreciated where you are coming from and it takes a certain character to even bring this to other's attention.

But I'd like to point out (if you haven't already noticed), that those on Agon are no different than those in any other hobby or walk of life.

When a population is small, there appears to be greater accountability and respect for one another. But whenever a town, a business, or even a web-site grows, the accountability and respect for others lessens and sometimes disappears.

Riots and mob-mentality simply don't have much of an impact when only one or two partake.

So my advice to you is cheer up!! It'll only get worse. :)

-IMO
I first signed on to AudiogoN in '97 or '98. I don't remember exactly when but the site was quite civil. Then within about a year, it totally fell apart. You could write absolutely nothing without somebody flaming you. The more you posted, and became known, it was like certain people were laying in wait for you so they could make some sniping remark. And there was no moderation of the posts. It got so bad that I just tuned out for about five years. I came back a year or two ago and I find it's greatly improved. Maybe it's just the perspective of time between now and then, but I think that it's a lot better now. However, it still took a year after my return before I felt it was worth my time to try posting again. Now that I've started posting, and opened myself up to attack, I don't find it's a problem yet. However, there certainly have been a couple of times when criticism or comments to my posts seem to be personal more than fair differences of opinion. A couple of days ago, I took some heat and ridicule in a thread for suggesting that people should be honest. The positive side is that now I know the usernames of some people that I certainly will never do business with.

I think that we could help ourselves a lot if we point out the trash. A moderator may let a flame through if it's a one-off event. However, a one-off flame to you and a one-off flame to somebody else and a one-off flame to another person turns into a pattern that identifies a particular individual. If the same name is brought to the moderator's attention again and again, they become noticed and perhaps tossed off the site. However, if an intemperate post is not brought to the moderator's attention, all the individual flames get lost in the thousands of posts. I have no problem at all with ratting out on the trash, because they drive away the good people to the detriment of us all. It's happened to this site before.