Of course the real irony here is those who raise their voices the loudest in defense of Science and the Laws of Science are often the most ignorant of technological advances in audio that have occurred over the last 20 years. They probably view these developments as some sort of global conspiracy. One need look no further than companies like Telos, Oyaide, Acoustic Revive, HiFi Tuning, Golden Sound, Audio Prism, Audio Magic, Townsend Audio, Mapleshade, Xtreme AV, Synergistic Research, Herbies Audio, Frank Tchang, PWB Electronics, Shakti, Lessloss. Not to mention the boatload of audio products based on Quantum Mechanics.
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Without philosophy we would not be having this discussion.
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One problem I can foresee is some folks who demand or at least encourage are non technical. You cannot explain things that are technical to non technical people. Period. The issue is they think they know what the word technical means but they don’t. They assume it’s something everybody can easily grasp, something that makes sense. But obviously that’s not really true. |
Gosh, whatever happened to good old (1) psychology, (2) evolutionary biology, and (3) the study of sensory perception: philosophical, subconscious and physiological.
Maybe add (4) flaws inherent in testing procedures. 😛
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Word on the street is that all audiophiles are nuts. |
Roses are red, violets are blue. I’m a schizophrenic and so am I. 🤪
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kosst_amojan
@geoffkait
I googled it. "geoffkait’s generic name-calling smear in the face of anything that violates his mythology". It’s like you don’t actually know what the term means because you never use it in a context that coincides with it’s definition.
>>>>Gee, I was wondering what happened to the real costco_emoji. That’s more like it! Welcome back! The DMT Express is back in town, baby! |
mapman
If most normal people think one is nuts, one probably is.
>>>>>I raise my glass to the normal people. Good on ya, mates. 😛 |
It’s a two way street. Yes, science can sometimes help explain things. And help design things. But one can be blinded by Science, too. There are a great many examples in this hobby that are difficult to explain. It’s really the nature of the hobby, has been for some time. So I wouldn’t get too upset or disappointed if explanations are not forthcoming or, if they are, not very palatable.
Give me some examples, you say? How about the Green Pen, Schumann Frequency Generator, Silver Rainbow Foil, VPI Brick, Mpingo disc, Cream Electret, tiny bowl acoustic resonators, the Intelligent Chip, crystals, directionality of fuses and cables, conductors the diameter of a human hair, Lessloss Blackbody, vibration isolation for solid state electronics, copper foil Flying Saucers for Windows, Shakti Stone, Shun Mook Original Cable Jacket, Teleportation Tweak, WA Quantum Chips, Graphene cables, fuse and contact enhancer and liquid cables?
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Next up, costco_emoji Googles Strawman Argument. I can hardly wait. 😳
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Thanks to you both for proving my point. Come on, people, stop obsessing over Ohm’s Law. Besides saying Ohm’s Law is unbreakable is a Strawman Argument. Extra credit : why is it a Strawman argument?
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Technical, shmechnical.
Knowledge is what’s left after you subtract all the stuff you forgot from school. As we approach the 100th anniversary of Schrodinger’s Cat, there seems to be a whole lot of confusion or just plain, what’s the word, absence of knowledge, regarding quantum mechanics. Perhaps uh, fear? 😃 Ohm’s Law is not (rpt not) the end-all do-all for technical arguments. |
Somebody asked, Can anyone explain that to me in a non-technical manner?
To which atmosphere replied,
“Yes. Anytime you see the word ’quantum’ associated with an audio product, it is an indication that you should turn around and run! as hard as you can until you are a very long distance away. Of course, you won’t get away from the quantum, but you might be a bit further away from where you saw the word. And maybe also the audio product in which it is supposed to reside.”
>>>>>>With these exceptions: Bybee Quantum Purifiers, WA Quantum Chips, Silver Rainbow Foil, Quantum Clip, the Red x Pen, Morphic Message Labels and The Super Intelligent Chip and of course The Teleportation Tweak and a great many others. And everybody’s favorite - the Photos in the Freezer Tweak. 😳 Let’s not forget the humble CD laser is a Quantum thingamabob.
There is almost no line dividing Quantum Mechanics from Standard Physics. 😬
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willemj
Indeed, the recurring crackpot argument is that scientific facts do not exist and that you should follow your subjective impressions. That makes people easy targets for snake oil sellers (many of them here) and audiophilia nervosa, leading to frequent buying and selling of vastly overpriced gear.
>>>>>>Actually, there is no such argument by anybody that scientific facts don’t exist. Quite the contrary. It’s usually the non technical types, but sometimes supposed technical ones, who claim that controversial tweaks 🐍 you know, the ones they either don’t understand or ones they choose not to subscribe to, disobey the sacred Laws of Physics or Electronics or some other field of science. The ones they most likely never studied themselves or, if they did, slept peacefully through class. The two most commonly used fake arguments by skeptics are (1) it will never pass a controlled double blind test and (2) it disobeys the Laws of Science. (They’re never quite sure which one). Of course, the whole “it disobeys the Laws of Science” ploy is obviously a Strawman Argument, a fallacious argument.
As someone posted on one of these forums, “only quote facts.”
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