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A low offer is an insult? Really? An insult?
You put something up for sale on the internet and then you get offended when somebody makes an offer you decide is too low?
Ignore them if you want but to get offended is really pretty silly.
I've sold a lot of stuff here and closed deals with people who initially made very low offers. I have no problem with negotiating. The buyer needs to start somewhere and it has to be no higher than they are willing to pay. I don't care if they offer me 10% of what I ask. It is a start and if I counter offer I still might make the sale. If I ignore them or worse yet send back a scathing response calling them a bottom feeder or worse what does that accomplish?
If you don't want to negotiate then say firm and ignore the offers but to get offended is ridiculous. If you get offended that easily you might want to consider turning off your computer and avoiding the internet.
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Cyclo, not directly at you, I just saw several comments from different people about insults.
I usually include ground shipping and raise my price just a bit to cover that as it so much easier than going back and forth to get a shipping price and buyers seem to like "free" shipping.
I also laugh when I see people who want to charge extra for Paypal. If they are so concerned about a few percent they should raise their asking price a little bit and and entice the Paypal buyer with the fact they aren't charging extra for it.
Got something you want to get around $1,500 for? List it at $1,700 and include free Paypal and ground shipping. Unless it is very heavy you can let somebody beat you down to $1,600 and still get your $1,500. Nobody is going to run away because you started at $1,700 rather than $1,500 and you just might get the higher amount from those like Elizabeth who just pay what you ask.
I'm no marketing genius but some of the stipulations people on their sales seem designed to drive away buyers. Make it as easy as possible for people to buy and you will make it easier on yourself to sell.
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. Mark, I would respond with a price near my bottom line. "I can take X including shipping and Paypal and no less." It takes about 20 seconds to respond, why should I ignore a potential customer no matter how low they start? Some people start very low looking for desperate sellers. I'm not charging a paypal fee. If the buyer pays with a money order, I'll deduct what I would have paid paypal. Polk, yes you are charging a PayPal fee to those who want to use it. If you charge $100 by money order and $103 if I use Paypal then you are charging a fee to use Paypal. Your logic is the same as the pizza places that have free delivery but give you a discount if you come pick it up. That is not free delivery. . |
Polk, it is very simple.
Do I or do I not have to spend more to use Paypal with you?
If you pay more for a pizza when it is delivered than you do when you pick it up then you are paying a delivery fee. It doesn't matter that they call it a discount for picking it up... it is a delivery fee.
Ever been to a store that gives a discount for paying cash instead of using a credit card. That isn't a discount. They are charging you a fee to use your card.
If it costs me more to buy it from you with Paypal then you are charging me a fee for using Paypal. It doesn't matter that you call it a refund when I send you a money order, I end up spending more to use Paypal so it is a fee for using it.
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That makes perfect sense.
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. Ok, if you think you are right, I'll knock off 500.00 now please put your money where your mouth is or shut up. You don't have the money anyway, so what's your point? No paypal fee no money order fee and no anchovies. Whaaa Whaaa Whaaa. Of course I'm right, it is common sense, but I have no idea what you are talking about here. Put up or shut up? What in the world are you talking about? . |
. Polk, I never said you were charging for a money order. I said you were charging extra for Paypal. I think you are just messing with me,,, right? Lets just drop it, the little one liner jabs you are interjecting don't make any sense to anybody but you anyway. I'm still standin' what the hell is that all about? . |
wow,
You've posted 36 times to this thread so far, repeating the same theme multiple times. Freud would have a field day with you.
We get it, you've got yours and to hell with anybody who does not. You are a superior being because you made a lot of money and people who are struggling should not be bothering you.
BTW, how did you calculate 88% of those on welfare don't need it?
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. First reaction is how can you say you have no more than others when you retire at 49 and most people live in debt? I'm doing OK myself but realize how fortunate I am to be in the situation I'm in. So I'm thinking;;; I really don't know you, maybe I'm taking your rants about welfare cheats, whiners, and bottom feeders the wrong way so I look at your other responses and find this response about dealing with wives and girlfriends. Stay out of debt, always make sure you have more money than her (so you can stick it to her how much more responsible you are than her) and keep separate bank accounts. Then go out and buy what ever the hell you want. Remember to hide your gold. Happy listening. When I got to that I understood. No wonder you have such contempt for lowballers when your idea of a good relationship is one built on dominance and deception. If you don't see how that is wrong on so many levels we will never be able to see eye to eye. Wish I had seen that earlier so wouldn't have wasted my time trying to reason with you. . |
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Csmgolf, "offensive" ?????
That is so foreign to me I have no idea how to respond. You get an email for lower than you expect and you are "offended." Very sad really.
Polk, I see we are so far apart on life experiences that further conversation is pointless. I married the love of my life 25 years ago and everything WE have is OURS. I pity someone who goes through life looking over their shoulder worrying about splitting up. We have joint accounts, everything is in both our names, We plan to go to our graves with whoever survives getting whatever there is.
Very sad you feel the need to flaunt what you have to your partner to feel superior and hide what you have to protect it.
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. It is called courtesy. No, it is called negotiation. if someone asks you your bottom line and you give it to them, then don't bother offering lower because it is the bottom line. That's not the way the way the real world works. When you give your bottom line you may be firm, but a lot of people respond with a price higher than they are ultimately willing to take. Since I don't have any idea whether you are firm or not I have to offer lower to find out. Again, it is called a negotiation. If you are so easily offended then don't negotiate. Say so in the first place and list it firm then ignore anything below your price. Once you open the door to a negotiation it is ridiculous to get "offended" at an offer, any offer. . |
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Your straw man argument is idiotic. Please quit making things up and attributing them to me.
I said you should not get offended by an offer. I did not suggest you had to accept it.
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. you completely missed my point. When my best offer is asked, I have already negotiated against myself. Negotiations are done at that point, period. Why do you believe everyone negotiates like you do? Many will not give you their bottom line at first in hopes of getting more. Unfortunately I am not psychic. How do I know which type you are unless I ask you to reduce your price? It is a process of feeling out the other party to try and discover what their true bottom line is. It has nothing to do with courtesy. I would love to be the car dealer when you come in. Do you really believe they give you their best price just because you ask for it. Like I said, if you are offended by negotiations just don't do it. Amen . |
. It's funny that you found my, and others, taking offense offensive yourself. Once again, somebody putting words in my mouth. I never said I found it "offensive" or anything even close to that. Why do you feel the need to misquote me and make things up to try and make your point? You and Polk are a couple of clowns. You get backed into a corner with illogical arguments and then make things up to try and get out. It is obvious you are just arguing for the sake of arguing since you keep making things up just like Polk has. The post above proves that Polk talks out of both sides of his mouth. In this thread he is offended by negotiators and in previous threads he revels in beating them into submission. cash is still King and the sellers will finally give in. You are what I call "internet idiots." Not that you're really an idiot, but you get on these forums, say something idiotic, and then defend it to death with even more idiotic arguments. . . . |
