VPI TNT Turntables


Many years ago I owned a VPI HW-19 Jr turntable + Sumiko Premier FT arm, which I soon replaced with a Merrill Heirloom + ET2. After may years of digital reproduction, I wish to go back to analog reproduction and I would like to buy a VPI TNT with, again, the ET2 arm. Unfortunately (or fortunately), many models/upgrades exist for TNT. Therefore, I would be very grateful if some experts of TNTs could describe the sound/performance variation from TNT Jr to most recent ones so as to help me in my choice. 

Thank you very much!

Luca
luca58

Showing 7 responses by analogluvr

You've chosen a great combo, I have a TNT with two ET 2s on it. The one upgrade I would not do without is the flywheel, whether you have one or two motors. Another important one is the speed controller and then the platter which there is lots of disagreements on.   I would go with the Delrin aluminum cork and lead platter or the latest classic platter with the inverted bearing. As far as the feet go I don't think there's a whole heck of a lot of difference aside from the air bladders di require more maintenance but I don't think it's a big deal. Normally about once every two months I have to add some air and relevel. Takes about five minutes. 
Fwiw I would rather have continuos speed than ever changing speed. But we've gotten into this before. 
The ear will detect changes much more easily than a controller that is slightly off but the same all the time. 
I assume your of the Phoenix speed controller fame due to your feedback comment?
If consistent motor speed doesn't equate to consistent platter speed how can inconsistent motor speed equate to consistent platter speed??
Why would the motor speed on your unit be inconsistent????

wait for it

wait for it

oh because the platter speed changed!
Phoenix just to clear the air Im not against you or your product either. I have not heard it yet.  I think it looks like a well-made fairly priced product.  But I am leery given the premise of the whole thing. To me it's theoretically better to hold a constant speed, or attempt to, then to have an ever-changing, corrected speed. I realize neither one is perfect though so they both may work equally well in practice.  I think all the concern over belt creep is way overblownjust to sell us poor saps something else. But that is audio in a nutshell. And as S Bank said you really should identify yourself as has been brought to your attention before. 
Regarding the TNT ET Combo the op is after I think he is on the right track. My table came with the 12 inch arm and I sold it and bought an ET and pocketed some money. The ET far outpreforms the 12 inch arms as well as 95% of the other arms on the planet. The ET is stupid performance for the money. Where are you lady you should be somewhat mechanically inclined and willing to fiddle. That does not mean it goes out of adjustment as some people think I just mean in the learning phase you have to play around with it. 
I think the ETs aren't more popular because people are afraid of them.  Although they shouldn't be, while very different the set up is actually much easier than with a pivoted arm once you figure it out. 
You guys are both right, the hurst motor is the tables weak point and yes it should not be in the plinth. I was amazed years back to see tons of people selling their tnts to get into the then new classic. I don't see how they thought the classic was a better table??  I guess some folks will always chase the latest new thing.....
I do find you have to be careful with vpi, a lot of their changes were made to lower manufacturing costs and marketed as "better"