Vintage DD turntables. Are we living dangerously?


I have just acquired a 32 year old JVC/Victor TT-101 DD turntable after having its lesser brother, the TT-81 for the last year.
TT-101
This is one of the great DD designs made at a time when the giant Japanese electronics companies like Technics, Denon, JVC/Victor and Pioneer could pour millions of dollars into 'flagship' models to 'enhance' their lower range models which often sold in the millions.
Because of their complexity however.......if they malfunction.....parts are 'unobtanium'....and they often cannot be repaired.
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Ok Videos uploaded on Facebook on our home page PBN Audio Shows the GrooveMaster Vintage Direct DP80 with a SME 310 carrying a Ortofon MC Anna VTF 2.6 Gm playing an entire album side in this case 17 minutes and 28 seconds.  The Timeline dot is 26 feet away from the turntable center - in the 17minutes and 28 seconds the dot moves about 3 inches forward , progressively , probably indicative of the 33.334 speed indicated by the Roadrunner Tachometer.  Don't know how to calculate this but I'm certainly sure it is well within specs :-)

Once I get a DN308 online again Ill do the same experiment

Good Listening 

Peter   
Peter, I use the Roadrunner/Eagle to control my Lenco.  It is comforting to see the RR display 33.333, every once in a while.  In practice, the speed takes about 5 minutes to stabilize usually around 33.3, then 33.33, then flirting with 33.333, maybe after 10 minutes in.  I think the bearing lubricant may be warming up during this early time.  But I don't understand why you would want to "control" the Denon DP80 or the DN308 motor with the RR feeding back to the Eagle.  Wouldn't you want to leave that in the hands of the built-in feedback mechanism which is making constant readings (not just once per revolution) off the tape that is attached to the inner circumference of the platter? You could certainly use the RR for a numerical readout of speed without having it control the motor; maybe that is what you are doing.  (I don't think anyone would hear a problem with 33.334 vs 33.333.  I don't even hear any significant difference between 33.3XX and 33.333. (Talking with respect to the Lenco.)

Chakster, I am of the belief that a cylindrical plinth that has a diameter minimally greater than that of the platter is optimal, regardless of drive system.  I think our conventional rectangular plinths with a large surface area beyond the platter area add a subtle coloration that is appreciated when one compares the sound to the cylindrical type, which sounds most "open" to me, for want of better words to describe it.  But I do not associate OMA with originating the idea, at all.  Nottingham and Verdier and also Galibier, Teres, Redpoint, etc, beat them to it.
The OMA copy of the Verdier idea, is, like the Verdier, a can of worms.  Center of gravity is way way too high, for one thing.  Springy footers plus rotating mass raised high above = instability.  IMO, of course.
Lewm

The road runner is only for display - it has no control purpose - I opted for the inclusion the Roadrunner in the 308 because it has no strobe, keeping the DP80 in the Pro line I included it in that too, eliminating the strobe.

Good Listening

Peter
Thanks Peter,
Finally someone with the 'guts' to post a Timeline video rather than just 'talk' about it 👅

I applaud you...and good luck with your quest in reviving these vintage Japanese DD turntables.
I have still seen no evidence that any of the modern DD decks can equal (let alone exceed) the performance  of the great Japanese decks of the Golden Age....
Regards
Henry