Ghostrider45 I believe your correct!
I've been an audiophile for about 30yrs and when the wind is blowing in the right direction, I can hear up to 17Khz.
I was tested many years ago, even now I'm not sure???
and it's my opinion you can get most of the music within the 15khz.
Remember, I would prefer to listen to a resisticed hi-end system that expands to only 10 or 12k, than listen to 20khz
of lowfi distortion and junk.
I believe you understand what what I'm trying to say.... |
Hi Wendell;
I agree, Vynal playback can be very dynamic, especially with a dynamic system like my friends and I have, tri-biamplified with hi-effecincy drivers, and good vynal records!!!
But brother, do not assume for even a second that the tuner is not dynamic, it is the tuners greatest strength over vynal,
the dynamics is awsome, the output level and signal voltages
seems to be very large compared to vynal.
if this is not true in your system, well is not the tuners fault. Look at other areas.
I'm talking about top hiend tuners like the dynalab 108T and 109T.
but with teflon coupling cap modifications.
I would also say again, the stock tuners are not as good as our
vynal rigs. |
Hi Hifitime;
The teflon coupling caps seem to allow more high frequencies with more volume so, I'm confused about what your saying about blocking out high frequencies?
I'm blessed to live in the greater toronto area where there are many great high quality radio signals/stations.
But your right about me not knowing what is going on and not being aware of it!!
I only know what I hear, and my friends confirm it also. |
audiofeild;
Thanks for the report card :>(
You have expericed the opposite of what I'm saying???
Tell us what you have or have heard and what your experience
is ???
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Hi Stanwal;
I understand what your saying, and have always believed as you until, recently when my friends purchased this expensive equipment.
what can I say?, the bottom line ; hearing is believing. |
Hi Jbcortes;
Congradulations and thank you for the explanation,
you obviously have a top notch system that can reveal.
I also can't explain it, but witness it time after time.
Like I said before we here in the Toronto, Ontario Canada
are blessed to have many hi-quality radio stations.
Unlike my friends who are tuner crazy they believe its a great investment for the stations here, I'm really a vynal guy, and would prefer to listen to the music I have when I want to listen, then be at the mercies of the radio stations programmers.
This is a personel preference thing. |
Hi Doak;
Your a poet and don't even know it. :>)
This is not wishful thinking, it is unexpected and far from my thinking, as truly I'm a vynal guy.
but thanks for the smiles. |
Hi Bobheinatz;
that's the spirit, experiement than report to us.
Also, if you change the coupling capicitors with teflon
in your 106T, you will be shocked.
It's about a 30 percent upgrade!
you can also change the wire from the connectors to circuit board with some hiend stuff to further the improvement. |
Hi Newbee;
you asked; "Are you suggesting that I can mod this tuner as you did and actually 'improve' (not just change) its performance? Are you sure? Or have you just brought up the level of the reproduction capability of YOUR tuner? "
are they not the same? not sure which is which,
bottomline is the "see thru transpacency, dynamics,
and improved intimacy " is night and day.
it takes the tuner to the level that's even better than vynal.
I would also say that your 106T or even the 108T in it's stock version for is NOT as good as my vynal rig.
I have an older version of the Da Vinci wooden arm and magnetic bearing turntable, with an inexpensive Bluenote
Boboli signature cartridge.
I love the bluenote cartridges, and their voicing.
Also using the humble microbenz Luc. phonostage. |
Hi Tdaudio;
I agree, "FM is designed to be at a disadvantage to vinyl in two important ways."
That's the reason why I started this thread!
I'm just amazed what the FM can accomplish.
shocking really. I can't explain it, just so much I don't know.
most don't agree with me, which is not surprising, but what is surprising to me is how good FM really is? |
Hi Al;
you aked;
"Did you compare the two tuners in the same system and room?"
no I did not, but am familiar with both systems and have alot of experinece in audio systems, that said your right,
there is a small element of uncertanty,
Otherwise, how do you know that the caps were responsible for the differences you heard?
because from what I understand is that the 108T and 109T
are basically the same unit using the same circiut boards
but the expensive display,metters and thick aluminum faceplates are different.
"And was the 108 the original older version, or the updated 108T version?"
it is the latest 108T, just one month old.
" And whichever 108 it was, how can you conclude that the upgraded caps in the 109 were the reason it sounded better than the 108, considering that they are different models?"
like I said, I understand the difference are only cosmetic.
and the same circiut boards are being used, hope I don't get into trouble with Dynalab. :>( |
Hi Wendel;
I don't own these tuners, nor have I ever said I own these turners, they are my friends, and although it may be great, I still prefer to use vynal because I can play what I want when I want.
I have an inexpense unit that does the job of back ground music when I'm multi-tasking or when there is a live concert being broadcasted. I simply can't afford to keep up with the "jones".
but this thread is about the ultimate source quality and I shamedly admit, it might be the FM tuner. |
Hey Newbee;
Ever talk to people on the street that are audiophiles with
their Cerwin Vega speakers and Pioneer receivers?
Although the Accuphase T100 is a decent tuner, it simply is not in the league of the dynalab 108T or 109 tuners.
Not because if the specs or ability to pull in stations, but
mostly because of the audio section is inferior.
Also my conclusions have nothing to do with music material as you thought before.
Bottom line;
Here is the list of highest quality sources for home audio reproduction in order and in my opinion.
#1 Modified hi-end tuners, with teflon coupling caps in audio board.
#2 turntable
#3A stock hi-end tuners
#3B Digital CD,DVD,etc...
"thems the facts" according to three of our friends,
who's systems are well above average. :>)
I believe this, its just my worthless opinion.
I think this is a dead subject, I've made it clear what I
believe and will probably need not comment further.
Started this post, because it was a shocking revelation to
me, being in audio for so long, (can see many are shocked to); wanted to hear others opinions.
Have a happy new year and may He richly Bless you with
audio bliss and happy listening.
Peace, out. |
