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Trying to get a general idea of SQ hierarchy for combo pre/DAC vs separate boxes

How does a combo preamp and DAC compare to separates? And do you spend more on the preamp or the DAC? I started out looking for comparisons of the PS Audio Stellar GDC because I liked the idea of its analogue volume control, but there are a lot of options. With separates I might upgrade my DAC first before I start messing with anything else. Here's a quick list with current prices on both sides of the GCD:

$ 900 - Schiit Saga ($300) & Bimby ($600)
$1500 - Schiit Freya+ ($900) & Bimby
$1550 - Schiit Saga & Gumby ($1250)
$1700 - PS Audio Stellar GCD
$2000 - Benchmark DAC3 L
$2150 - Schiit Freya+ & Gumby
$2200 - Mytek Brooklyn DAC+

Current system is Dynaudio Audience 82, Musical Fidelity A300 Integrated, Oppo BDP-105 for discs and DAC. Leaning toward a PrimaLuna power amp, either HP stereo or monoblocks . The list of speakers I want to listen only gets longer the more I read so I'm putting that off for a bit. Might try streaming and a dedicated server eventually. Most of my CDs are already ripped lossless on an SSD plugged into the Oppo, but the interface is heinous. Ripped files through the Oppo sound fine, but I really miss the AH! Njoe Tjoeb I had until the transport finally died. I think that may be what is making me want to go the tube amp route.
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studio1
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The comparison of DAC to Amplifier compared to DAC to Preamplifier to Amplifier will depend largely on the combinations of components.  When you start spending big Money on DAC's you get into better output sections in many (not all) cases - which makes the need for a Preamplifier less important.  However, just when you have spent Big Money on a DAC there will sure enough come along a DAC to Preamplifier to Amplifier combination that will outperform that combination.  

Personally, I prefer having a Preamplifier in my System to accommodate Vinyl; in my System the Preamplifier lays out the Soundstage better.

As for your choice - Benchmark and Mytek are tough to beat!!!  You can get either one and try inserting a few different Preamplifiers from your local Audio salon to get an idea of whether or not your system will benefit.
studio1
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You can keep the Oppo for movies; but the Digital Front End and Amplification should be upgraded.  If you want to stay with Integrated Amplification McIntosh has some impressive options starting at $3500 with the MC252.  As for digital, Benchmark or Mytek will get you where you want to go; and of the two - Benchmark also has a Power Amplifier now that should match well with their DAC.  You have a lot of decisions to make.  You can Audition the McIntosh at Best Buy; keep us posted on what you decide to do. 
studio1
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HTH answered correctly; there is no one answer due to the various combinations that can yield various results at different price points.  More Money spent does not always equate to superior performance over more economical gear.  

As should be with any hobby - Learning is should be part of the experience; therefore, take advantage of savvy people like Arthur Salvatore (http://www.high-endaudio.com/rec.html), Michael Fremer on Youtube, and Factory Tours such as Audio Research, Audio Note, and Radio just to name a few also on Youtube.  

An Audio Show coming anywhere near your area would also be a treat to visit and get samples of many combinations.  


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