Time for a total system upgrade


Hello Audiogon members! I never imagined a site like this existed! Who ever put it together should be appropriately rewarded! Let me introduce myself: I’ve enjoyed music all of my life, played trumpet for about 10 years, and have listened to quite a bit of live music. During college, of all times, I discovered “audiophile” equipment and so began the affliction! Now, after a long hiatus from serious investment in listening equipment – career changes and finally Grad school – it’s time to update the system. Quite honestly, I’m kind of giddy about finally having some money to spend on the sound system. After all, it’s probably a better investment than my 401K! But let’s not open that wound… Let me start by listing the current components (please, no laughing!):

Audible Illusions Modulus 2B preamp
Superphon DM200 dual mono power amp
Sony DVD/CD player – moderate quality, non-progressive
AR turntable and arm – unmodified
Benz Micro cartridge
Techniques Tuner – el cheapo
Various Monster interconnects
NHT 1.5 with stands
Phase sub woofer

Here’s what I’d like to do: update the 2-channel system and add home theater. I realize this will necessitate certain trade-offs at the outset. Would like to keep a dedicated 2-channel system that can run through an analogue bypass in the HT pre/pro. The ratio of music to HT is about 50-50. Music includes classical, jazz, Black gospel choirs (wife), female vocals and some contemporary stuff. Here’s the budget so far, but I’ve got some wriggle room if really justified:

Multi-channel power amp - $1500 (used or demo)
HT Pre/Pro - $1500 (used or demo) must have component video out
Progressive DVD/CD - $800 (new, used or demo)
Main speakers (for now, NHT’s move to the rear for 5.1) - $1500 – 2000
Center channel speaker - $500
Update the Tube pre - $1200 (used or demo)

What has worked with the current system: soundstage, some detail and transparency, good volume capability without any listener fatigue. What it lacks: bass that’s integrated and not tubby, more detail and transparency, 5.1 capabilities. I’ve come to enjoy, perhaps prefer, the tube sound for a pre, but still want the power and transient response of the SS amp. Here’s what I’ve listened to so far:

Rotel RMP 1075, 1095, RSP 1066, RDV 1080
Anthem MCA20, Anthem AVM20
Classe stuff, but out of the budget
Sony DVP S9000ES
B&W 604 series, CDM9NT’s
Paradigm Studio 40’s and 100 v.2

Also considering:
B&K Reference 30
B&K 7250
Anthem AVM2
Anthem MCA 50
New tube preamp? (Anything from Audio Research, Conrad Johnson, etc)
Energy Veritas 2.3 speakers

So here’s the subjective part. And believe me, I know these are just my very uninformed opinions. One significant thing I’ve noticed so far is listener fatigue, something I’ve never before experienced. This occurs after several hours of critical listening in dedicated rooms. Don’t know if this is the SS preamp, speakers or what. Whatever the case, I can’t imagine investing in new gear that’s fatiguing. In terms of music reproduction, the B&W 600’s were quickly eliminated. The CDM 9nt had very good detail and transparency, but lacked a solid bottom end. The Paradigm 100 v.2 had a tremendous bottom end, almost too much, but sounded rather veiled when compared to the CDM 9nt (same electronics). Have thought of using the CDM 1NT for the mid and high detail in combination with a pair of good subs to drive the bottom end.

What are your thoughts and recommendations on the new system? Rather than a 5-channel amp, would it make any sense to add 2-channel and 3-channel amps to preserve a dedicated 2-channel system? BTW, sorry for the HUGE post. Thank you very much for taking the time to read and respond!
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Showing 1 response by rsbeck

I have an Anthem MCA-50 and it is doing a great job. I
auditioned a pair of speakers at a store that was using a
Macintosh 2102 100 Watts X 2 and a pre/pro similar to mine.
I got the speakers home and -- this is probably going to
sound like sacrilege to some -- I couldn't detect any
difference between the set up with my $2,000 Anthem MCA-50
[running my front speakers in two-channel] and the set up with the $6,000 Macintosh tube amp. The Anthem MCA-50 is
fast, the bass is tight, the music swings when it supposed to, and the sound-stage is wide. I highly recommend saving
money on the amplifier by going with the MCA-50 and spending
the money saved on your speakers.

In your price range, I haven't listened to everything,
but I really enjoyed the Paradigm Studio 100's. You can
also find Sonus Faber Grand Piano Home and Revel Performa
F-30's on Audiogon for a similar price to [New] Studio 100's. I really enjoyed those speakers, highly recommend you give them a listen. Only reason I didn't buy the Sonus Fabers was that I ended up buying at a higher price point and liked other speakers at that price. In a head to head
with B & W, I had to go to up the Nautilus 803's to beat
the Sonus Faber Grand Piano Home -- but even then, it was
close and I'm not sure I liked the B & W sound as much as
the Sonus Faber. [To my ear, B & W seems to "bump" the high end a little] If I were shopping around for front
speakers in the 2,000-ish price range, I'd be hard pressed to pass up some of the deals I've seen around here on Sonus Faber Grand Piano Home's. Listen to the Fabers and I think you'll see what I mean. But -- listen to the F-30's, too.
Between those and the Paradigm Studio 100's, I don't think
you can go wrong at that price point.

And, I think you'd be happy with the Anthem MCA-50 until
you can find a two-channel amp or mono-blocks that will
beat it for two channel listening -- and by then, maybe
you'll need 7 channels.