The Truth About Power Cords and there "Real" Price to Performance


This is a journey through real life experiences from you to everyone that cares to educate themselves. I must admit that I was not a believer in power cords and how they affect sound in your system. I from the camp that believed that the speaker provided 75% of the sound signature then your source then components but never the power cord. Until that magic day I along with another highly acclaimed AudioGoner who I will keep anatomist ran through a few cables in quite a few different systems and was "WOWED" at what I heard. That being said cable I know that I am not the only believer and that is why there are so many power cord/cable companies out there that range from $50 to 20-30 thousand dollars and above. So I like most of you have to scratch my head and ask where do I begin what brand and product and what should i really pay for it?

The purpose of this discussion to get some honest feed back on Price to Performance from you the end user to us here in the community.

Please fire away!


 


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Showing 3 responses by mikepowellaudio

Talk is cheap. I design power cords. Who wants to finally get off your ass and double blind shootout ?. Lets get to the bottom of this lame ass argument that has been going on since the beginning of time. If your cable beats mine, it ,means power cords work and Ive done the industry a huge favor. We can end the conversation and move on to speaker cables, and interconnects until the whole talk is over as far as cables go.
Anyone can join the party, does not have to be other designers, you can rep your favorite designer if you like. So we can find out which cable is best I guess ...yippee,,, it will be expensive im sure. That does not matter to the marketplace as much as whose is best for the least amount of money ? I’ll bet I win this Title and if a $300 cable beats mine, then we will vote for whose cable looks the most unique and innovatiove regardless of anything else.. I got a solid foot in on that one. .. My 5 foot cord is $800. I will start here, the same thing in pure solid 5N silver within my line is $1500. If we really want to get down, Im sure I can cheapify my cable and maintain performance. Both are bargain by Audiopohile standards. No audio show shootouts as the acoustics are crappy at best. I’ll do this at my house in Atlanta GA. If nobody wants to blind test, I’ll do it with local audiophile buddies and record it with high grade microphones and post it to youtube. Its time for all us to pull up our dang panties and put this to rest by the REAL way, blind testing, I could care less if I win or not, I just dont want this damn drivel all the time around my sacred place, the HiFi Hobby. dont any of you feel like you are taking part in a whiny pissant discussion when your job is to be listening to music, discovering wonderful new styles and albums by sharing with one another your findings, and paying homage to the reason this website even exists ??? Its MUSIC ! Remember that one thing ??.. You all are off in the weeds wasting precious time and not listening to music and enjoying all the cool things it can do for us .... Wake up Audiophiles, this is MUSIC calling...
AtDavid and Dimora , Mi Casa es Su Casa for anything HiFi related. Its no trick of marketing , Im not smart enough for that. I’m sick of hearing this back and forth perpetual argument. I want to abolish it. I just offered anyone lets do this .. did you see how much interest there was in stopping the argument and getting to the bottom of it. ? Clearly nobody will come from overseas, that never crossed my mind. So you 2 are perfect, you guys dont know me and I will state for the record I dont think I know either of you, but based on moniker I dont know you guys.. So do either of you two have any $1000 plus power cords ? if so , we’ve got a shootout. If not, then you two are Audiogon forum users that can represent the AG Group for this thread. Keep in mind, I am a straight shooter. if something sounds better than my cable I will acknowledge it, furthermore if we become friends while you are here you must maintain an honest opinion even if you think Im a great guy and the other cable sounds better. Now if there is no $1K plus cable you can bring, then I need to know if you each are power cord believers or not, if you are , then come over any ways and we can listen to 3D Holographic imaging. Its a good reference point from which to judge other rigs, and its always fun for me to experience it in other peoples rigs because it is elusive. If you dont know what you think or better yet are a non believer that is OK with being converted to believer (if its truly heard) then come on over and Ill prove power cords work an a big way. There are some folks not willing to be converted , and that bias makes a closed mind, so its futile at that point. Every Friday is HiFi Fridays around here. I am in Smyrna by the new Battery Park if you google my username or just go to my username.com youll find my phone number to call and chat..
OK, so to respond to my post, I simply threw it out there, you may do with it what you want, but I am not afraid to double blind my cables. I dont think I have all the answers, I am not a scientist , I do believe there are things we experience as humans that can NOT be measured with any existing thingamajigger the physicists and scientists may have, even if it does go PING. The funny part is everyone is so stuck here. Its a phenomenon to me . Like we made a stick line in the dirt and put the chickens beak in it. The whole 50 miles of crap wire with noise, can easily be summed up so everyone can understand how a power cord could make a difference, in two words. . Filtering Cable. um....., is that so hard to imagine.. ? now depending on how much noise a filtering cable can remove will also affect the amount of noise on the ground plane of a piece of gear., this is because the safety ground is tied to the signal ground plane in 90% of pieces. Silly idea if you ask me , but I love differential design. Power supply noise gets on the ground plane from leakage current as well. This is why the more expensive gear where they have spent much time and effort at creating a low leakage, therefore low noise Psup , sound better and get less of a benefit from a filtering power cord. Ive decided to start really getting down to the nitty gritty if we want to talk cables. If people dont believe cables work, lets start with the microphone cable. to test this area, I recenty purchased a matched set of very flat measuremant microphones and a high fallotin mic pre. What I did not realize is that most if not all vocal mics have a rising frequency response in the higher frequency. Very simply put, the "coloration" starts with the microphone. .. this is a whole other discussion , but I ran recording tests this weekend with Mogami and My pure silver foil as a microphone cable . The difference is not subtle. Im also thinking a good way to prove the power cord thing is for me to make a power cord that will collapse your soundstage , in other words if power cords can change the sound of a rig, which they can. I should also be able to make one that degrades your sonic as well , right ? Yes , I can , through my trial and error proces, I know some things that will inherently degrade the sonic, collapse the soundstage roll off highs, kill dynamics, etc.. This may be easier for people to hear since it sits in the glass half empty arena and it seems some minds stay there.. So anyways , have a great Sunday and happy listening !