Subwoofer insight.


This is new territory to me. Current speakers are 2 way with frequency response of 60Hz-20KHz with +/- 2dB.  Sensitivity rated as 86dB. Chance to purchase a pair of REL 7 tis. I feel like I am missing something but will have to buy the subs to try out. My basic question is this. Does this purchase sound wise? I know what I am willing to spend but do you think I will notice an appreciable improvement.  I know that no one can listen through my ears but this is my first time doing this. Source is 75 watt integrated tube amp, McIntosh MA-2275. Thoughts appreciated. I am leaning towards going forward with the deal but would appreciate some feedback. Room is large and open, 28X38 feet with 9 foot ceilings. Thanks for any feedback.
ricmci

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Hi Ric,

I believe what Mr. ieales is trying to tell you is that REL subs are more difficult to integrate into a system than other brands of subs because they do not have variable phase adjustability. Phase in this case basically means that the output signal of the sub starts (or maybe I should say arrives at the listening position) at the exact same time as the output signal of the other speakers (including any other subs) in the system. In a single box speaker this is all controlled by the internal crossover. With a sub woofer and satellite speaker setup that crossover does not exist so that phase/time relationship between the sub and the main needs to be controlled in a different manner. One of the easiest and probably most economical ways to achieve this is by adding variable phase control to the sub amplifier.

REL's phase control allows you to vary the start of the signal in two increments where as other manufactures allow you to vary the start of the signal in as many as 360 increments.  It's kind of like using a ruler with markings at 0", 6" and 12" rather than using one that breaks down each inch into 1/32" segments.

Why REL does not include variable phase adjustability with their subs I do not know, I have a couple of guesses, but ultimately I do not know. OTOH there are a lot of very satisfied REL owners. So what does that mean? Who knows and for that matter who cares. I do know that you don't always need to measure to 1/32" to get the job done but if you can usually the end result will be better.

The bottom line is, do you like what you are hearing? If you do, that is all that matters.
@rgmd11

You do not need measuring equipment to set up a subwoofer. Measuring equipment would make the process easier and more precise but you can do it by ear and trial and error. Specially with multiple subs.

Barry Ober aka the “The Sound Doctor”
Barry knows his stuff but he has a different approach. He is a very big proponent of active crossovers. If you are from the school of any extra electronics in the signal path is bad, his method may not be for you. If you subscribe to the thought that a crossover is just another tool in the toolbox and if used properly it can enhance your systems sound, then maybe his approach is for you.

Either way his test/setup CD is probably a worthwhile purchase.