Small room, "budget priced" speaker advice, please


Hi,

I recently sold my dearly beloved, old Vandersteen 2C's here on Audiogon (and I hope SgtPeppers is loving them at this moment!) :-) I did this because in our remodeled house, my new listening room (which will double as a guest room) is just too small for the 2C's. The Spousal Acceptance Factor was just too low. ;-)

I have a PS Audio Elite-Plus integrated amp for power (around 70 W/Ch) and a soon-to-be-shipped-off-for-a-refurb Sota Sapphire for an analog front end (I have "miles" of vinyl)! I will also get a CD player at some point.

For now, I need to find a pair of best-of-breed, truly "budget" speakers. By "budget," I'm talking upper limit of $850/pair. (Gone are my free-spending, single days... I'm a dad now...) :-)

Listening habits: lots of 60's and 70's folk and rock, some jazz, Donald Fagen/Steely Dan, a little classical. Listening volume: not too loud. Sonic preferences: I value transparency and imaging/soundstage. Bass should be accurate above all, as opposed to chest-pounding powerful.

I've looked at Paradigms, which I know are highly regarded at lower price points. Trouble is, our one, local dealer is primarily a TV/home theater outfit, so you're trying to hear them in a showroom crammed with other stuff... you know the drill. I've also hit a high end shop. Listened to a pair of PSB small towers and disliked them; they sounded muddy and veiled to me. Listened to a pair of the smallest Rega's and liked them quite a bit, but would want to go back to listen again. I even wrote to PS Audio for advice; they recommended the "baby" Epos monitors, but they're out of my price range.

Thanks if you've read this far. Knowing how subjective all this is, I'd still welcome any advice you have to offer about what I should try to audition.
rebbi

Showing 10 responses by zkzpb8

If you're coming from Vandys, I'd suggest Ohm MicroWalshes. The Talls are a little more than $850, but if you can stretch, I think they're an amazing speaker. They also have a short version, that's closer to budget.

Otherwise, the Totem Arros are nice too.
Rebbi, the Austin shop is Whetstone audio:
http://www.whetstoneaudio.com/

Brian is really great, he hooked me up with my Cyrus gear - maybe try some of his offerings. BTW, I've tried all of the speakers mentioned so far (and like many of them), but the Ohms still rate higher IMO :) Seriously though, you're auditioning some nice speakers... have fun!
That's too bad about the H/T showroom, and that Whetstone didn't have more to choose from...
Either the Rainmakers or Dyns will be great...
Rebbi, a lot of good advice here. Mapman, I see that I missed out on the Ohm threads... Let us know what you think of the Arros!
I've heard a few of the Naim label recordings with just a stereo pair of mics. Some performances come out nice, but many of them had muddy balances between instruments, or were just swimming in natural reverb... I like minimally mic'd drums, but rooms-only is tough to pull off. Anyway, they're fun to check out.

I'd like to hear the Morrison speakers, but: "...And yes, there should be room treatment on the side walls to tame the first reflection. A couple of chunks of convoluted foam glued to a sturdy backing of cardboard or Coraplast work like a charm." Not after my recent renovation, but with a dedicated room, I bet these speakers could be fun..

I was definitely pretty blown away by mbl's but I think Knownothing is onto something about the compatibility of (most) recordings and omnis. I'd like to hear a stereo mix made on a pair of omni speakers.
Mapman,

I feel the same way about my Ohms - I recently checked out some speakers after not being in a stereo store in a long time (or hi-fi show for that matter) - I still don't think I can ever go back to conventional speakers again (I've had my Ohms for almost 4 years which is the longest I've ever owned anything in my stereo)...

It's the true omnis that I'm not sold on yet...
Ok then.
I was thinking you were so enraptured in beautiful music, that you forgot to report back... I just made some changes to my system, so I'm also in new toy mode... Have fun with it!
Hey Rebbi - Nice score with the Unico - I had a feeling that would be a good match for you. Glad to hear that the Arros are working out, sound like they have a lot more breaking in to do. By the time they loosen up, you'll probably find the sweet spot (yes, away from that back wall!)- you'll be good to go.

I don't know if Kimber will work well in your system, but I just matched up some 4TC speakers cables with my old PBJs, and I really like what I hear (I went from AP Clear Ovals).
Rebbi, now that you have me thinking about it, I've purchased everything that I currently own without audition.
Amp was purchased from a store in Austin (I'm in NYC!), Ohms are obviously factory direct, DAC was from Pacific Valve MacBook Pro, PS3...