Should Sound Quality of Computer Audio be improved

Foster_9- as I have said, I want Computer Audio to succeed.
Certainly NOT trying to deter you from Computer Audio AT
ALL! Just believe you deserve more bang for your buck out
of Computer Audio- same as everyone. There is real potential here , but the weakest link is the Computer. It
simply is not designed for Music, and many take offense
when I demand an actual design effort in the equipment of
a New Format. I have demanded no less with CD Players, SACD
Players, DVD-Audio Players, Turntables...etc. These earned New Format Status because the players were designed from the ground up to reproduce Music- that costs Manufacturer's money! No Bandaids, no Ad-lib, no after
thought Modifications to make a Tool (Computer) perform an
application that it wasn't designed for! Everything that we
listen to gets bottlenecked through this weakest point.
Some success with S.Q., but half of listeners end up with
failure. This is unreliability in S.Q., and lack of design for Music in the Computer is causing this hit or miss! I
wouldn't be discouraged from persuing Computer Audio, I use
it with decent results. I just know that it can be designed
with more reliable, and consistent S.Q.- and really get our
money's worth. Why everyone on Audiogon detests this with
personal attacks...??? Failure will keep happening unless you fix the Design. Do nothing, it fails enough times, and
people will learn to detest the New Format. Up to you to take the initiative to keep the New Format going. It isn't
going to succeed in a vacuum, contrary to popular opinion!

I just know that Computer Audio can be designed with more
reliable and consistent Sound Quality- and we really get our money's worth. Why everyone on Audiogon detests this with personnal attacks...??? Are you a perfect example of this, Bojack? Have you got the idea now? Can I retort, and
arrest you for using 18 exclamation points in your example above? Is this your common sense idea of leading by example? Aren't you special!

I respect all responses. For every success story of using
Computer Audio, there is another story that's not so much!
This is the inconsistency in S.Q. of Computer Audio that I speak of. An inconsistency do to lack of design since there
are no STANDARDS for this New Format. Now we want to establish Computer Audio as the New Format to replace all other Formats, all the while Microsoft and Apple are not
interested in improving the situation for anyone! Obviously
no Standard for design in Computer Audio from these folks.
Sorry Audioengr, THIS is the ball and chain that I am specifically speaking of- that will drag down this New
Format! This is my warning, because I want Computer Audio to succeed! Something has to give if you seriously want this Format to take off unimpeded. The Bandaids, and
Modifications around Microsoft and Apple designs- will not
cut it for New Audio Format Status. Without Microsoft, and
Apple designed specifically to maximize Audio- you don't
really have a New Format. Your Format will remain with lack
of Audio design handicapped, and will continue to cause
inconsistencies in S.Q. results! Listener will be set against listener due to these varying results. I don't see
the same homework being done on this Audio Format, as was
done on all others. The consequences of lack in planning,
and lack of design, will be staggering! Stop hampering
Computer Audio, and try helping it instead- by designing it
right! You can start by stopping from enabling Computer
Manufacturer's. They are the real bad guy's here, not other
listeners who are trying to tell you that something is
amiss! Not trying to create enemies here.....but...Damn!
Know who your real enemies are....like lazy Manufacturer's
in Microsoft and Apple! I am not the billionare Manufacturer here! Send all of your complaints to them, unless your just as lazy as they are! Aren't you guy's tired of constantly cleaning up after their mess-
Computer Audio design wise, unless that is how you plan on
making your money? Somebody has to pay a pretty penny for
this- any volunteer's? Why, when you shouldn't have to? We
have never had to design our Audio Formats before, so why
do they get to freeload off of us now? Convenient for
everyone, EXCEPT US!!!

Timlub- so you Download Music Files without Anti-Virus
protection? Audioengr- are you still going to need bandaids
like Wasapi, Asio, and Kernel Streaming with Windows 8?
Drubin- Standard only means that you set a bar of Sound
Quality for a particular Format that must be met to qualify as that Format. Computer Audio Format Standard is all over the map from lower than CD MP3 to High Rez. 24/192
compressed, not compressed, lossless compressed...etc. One could accidentally trip into Computer Audio Standard with the bar so low, instead of designing up to it. Chadeffect- all Hi-Fi Systems do not suffer from a New Format so fluid that it makes it almost impossible to design for it.
I wouldn't exactly call Microsoft, and Apple a small niche market. More than likely an unmovable ball, and chain
around the neck strangling Computer Audio! Trying to design around that, can only severely handicap the design of any New Format, more or less try to establish it as the Format to replace all others! The end result of this will always have some listeners with success in Computer Audio, the other half failure. The reason is in lack of design,
lack of consistency, and lack of any Audio Standards set forth by Microsoft and Apple- and for that matter any other Computer Audio Manufacturer. You are making it up as you go along, which is a really bad way to design any New Format. Who are we kidding, this isn't designing anything-
this is playing 52 card pick-up! I have been an Engineer
for 20 years, and I recognize when something has been designed properly. You will have Microsoft and Apple drag
down Computer Audio. Their 50% Failure Rate in Sound Quality due to lack of consistent design can only continue to discourage more listeners. Look at Alessandro1, how do you design around his discouragement? It isn't simply an
option to deal with this, it is absolutely critical to the continued success of Computer Audio! Cutting the Computer Manufacturer's more slack in S.Q. can only doom any hope
for success. It is not weird to look at how other Formats became successful- and this is NOT how they did it! Neither was their success a conspiracy theory either. Edorr- you evoke images in your own mind, not me. I have
no desire to live there rent free- this is my notice that I am vacating the premises! You have a nice day. Are we
done throwing rocks? Do we now plan on avoiding Alessandro2...3...4...5...etc? Not gonna happen by cutting Computer Manufacturer's slack in S.Q.- not gonna happen
without proper design, and certainly not gonna happen in a vacuum (Contrary to popular opinion!). I would like to see someone actually work to establish Computer Audio as a new Audio Format. I dare Computer Audio to live up to its
potential, and I will be downloading Music Files till the cows come home. You can keep the Rocks as Pets!

Mezmo- based on everything that you just said. You expect
"THIS" to replace all other Audio Formats that "ARE"
designed specifically for Music? Oh yeah, and pay as much
for a compromised Audio Format as other specifically
designed Audio Formats. It sounds like the Computer
Manufacturer's have you exactly where they want you: begging for lower resolution, and paying more for it! What
is next, lower than lower than CD MP3 at a higher cost?
Do you really hate getting your money's worth in S.Q. in an Audio Format, or maybe you just hate having money?

WOW! I write a paragraph, Mezmo, and you write three in
response. I am just baffled about the insecurity behind
Computer Audio. You not only believe that the only way to
build this Format up is to tear all other Formats down, you
also have to tear up others using those other Formats. I
would say more power to you if your Format was designed from the ground up for Sound Quality, not piecemeal adlib.
Downloading means that you are going to have to go through an Operating System somewhere. That O.S. can only come from
Microsoft, Apple, Macintosh...etc. You know, the guy's who
would rather you be buying/downloading their lower than CD
resolution MP3. Yeah, these guy's will be determining the
Processing that your Downloaded High Rez. Music Files will be going through in their O.S. They are the main reason we
need Wasapi, ASIO, and Kernel Streaming bandaids. You are
going to design around their Audio Format crippling
software, and create the Audio Format to replace all others? Sounds like a tug of War, you pulling to establish
High Rez. Computer Audio, they pulling in the opposite
direction for more Processing for more Apps- sacrificing
that processing for Music! It is not even close who is going to win here. I will draw you a picture. The only way that High Rez. Audio Downloading becomes an established Format, is if the Computer Manufacturer's decide to allow you to have it- and start designing O.S. in that direction.
They are the 800 Pound Gorillas sitting on the chest of
High Rez. Computer Audio- not me or anyone else! They don't
move, your Format doesn't either...it is that simple. So
you are going to continue to make excuses why these
"Gorillas" shouldn't move expecting your Format to take off? The Bandaids (ASIO's) are to keep the chest from bleeding out, not to bypass the weight of these Gorillas-
as if they could! You are enabling these guy's to...
...hinder your efforts? I don't get it!!! I'm supposed to
support you, or are you demanding that I support them???

O-kay Mezmo, chill out. You have made your point. I was only being sarcastic. I am only going to say that if you
are serious about making Computer Audio the Audio Format to
replace all other Audio Formats- you have to design it for
that purpose. You, and Microsoft, and Apple, and Macintosh,
and ASUS, and every Computer Modifying Audio Manufacturer
out there. We are not just talking about Ripping for a
Music Server, we are talking about Internet Downloading- and you are going to design around these guy's or even rely
on them for the next Audio Format to replace all other
Audio Formats? These guy's who don't seem to give a crap
about your New Audio Format? Isn't it obvious that these guy's are gonna drag your New Format down? These guy's
whose greatest contribution to Computer Audio was lower than CD quality MP3 (Big money maker for them for sure!).
They don't seem to think much about your New Format to replace all others. I am not stopping you- they are! I
sure as hell wouldn't toss out all other Audio Formats
having to rely on these guy's. Why would anyone? I listen
to Computer Audio inspite of these guy's, knowing fully
well that they have painted a target on the back of this
Format. Why help them, or enable them to pull the trigger?
What a strange way to start a New Format, or slowly let it
bleed out. I am only trying to give fair warning to help
save it. Your New Format only threatens the profits of their lower than CD quality MP3 Empire. You wanted competition, guess you have it now! Do you still think that they are your friends? Profit is their only friend,
and you simply aren't profitable for them. Neither is a
High Rez. Downloading Format- watch out for stray bullets!
Now will you help try to defend it against these guy's, go
down standing or go down on your knees begging? I am not much for begging, how about you Sonzu? Heard you were
tougher! Are you really serious enough to make a go of
this New Format? Prove it by dealing with Computer Manufacturer's! If you are anything like the other geeks
on this Forum, I don't think you have the guts to make it
work! Prove me wrong, I would still like to use this Format! Seems to me that we are going to have to earn it-
certainly NOT going to be created in a vacuum.

Timlub- Fine for downloading from HDTracks, but what about
downloading anything else- latest software update for your
Media Player for example? Did you purchase Windows 8 from
certified Windows Retailer? Microsoft is really flaky with
the 12 Month free Customer Service. I bought Windows 7, but
because the disk sat on the shelf for a year I was only
eligible for 6 Months. The clock for this free Service doesn't begin on day of purchase, as you would expect. Try getting Microsoft Service after it has expired- lotsa luck!!!
Chadeffect- read my last response and tell me where I referred to sending Music File to a DAC? Lets both get back
on the same page now! I am referring to Downloading of Music Files, which always have to pass through an Operating
System. "Soon all new Music will only be available as Music
Downloads"- so I have been told a thousand times. O.S.
design for Audio Downloading still the perogative of
Microsoft, Apple, Macintosh....etc. You prefer the
processing for downloading of High Rez. Music Files. They
prefer the processing for games, Apps, DVD Movies...etc.
They prefer as little Processing as possible for Music ie:
Lower than CD Resolution MP3. They design the O.S. around
their perogative, pushing yours aside. This is the reason
why you need Wasapi, ASIO, Kernel Streaming...etc. It is
like taking a swiss army knife (Computer Audio with current
O.S.) to a Samurai Sword Fight (Other Formats specifically
designed for Music only). Be sure to bring lots of Bandaids
(Wasapi, ASIO, Kernel Streaming). I would think that you
would eventually get sick, and tired of being forced to
fight with a swiss army knife- and demand some help/improvement! Instead of holding your swiss army knife up as the Tool to best/replace all Samurai Swords. Sure,
you can design the swiss knife to do this- not without the
redesign of the O.S. by Computer Manufacturer's. They just
aren't the Music type. The result is a mixed bag of S.Q.
results for different listeners due to lack of consistent design in the O.S. for Music! Well lets just ignore this
and full speed ahead with Computer Audio anyways! Many
listeners get different results, and this only drags
Coumputer Audio down. Some think that this can be resolved by ignoring the original design of the O.S. by the
Computer Manufacturers. I suggest that you remove this ball, and chain around the neck of Computer Audio. It is
the only way to make sure! There are no other alternatives.
Edorr- of course there are limiting factors like the Sampling Rate of the Music File, and the Sampling Rates that your DAC can decode. Studio's are using a DXD Format
for editing, and mixing numerous Music Sources. It is
supposed to have a higher Sampling Rate than even SACD!
Don't buy the old wives tale of "Bits are just Bits". That
was old when the first CD came out. Don't mind pushback.
Better to get these issues out in the air. Many just want
everyone to blindly accept Computer Audio, like Zombies from the Walking Dead. I remain open to Computer Audio, but
it has to earn its position by consistently providing reliable S.Q. with a Music Selection that many can enjoy.
Only one way to do that! Current solutions wont accomplish
this.

Of course there are failures in S.Q. with other Formats.
That doesn't mean that there weren't design goals built
in to the Formats, and it certainbly isn't for lack of trying. What, pray tell, are the Audio design goals of
Computer Manufacturer's (Microsoft, Apple, Macintosh...
etc.) in designing their Operating Systems? In Windows 7,
in Windows 8? These guy's will tell you to your face, that
they have no intention of ever trying to improve anything
Computer Audio! Unlike you, THEY DON"T LIKE MUSIC! They
would rather play games, watch movies, or design new Apps.
for their Operating Systems. These guy's will always be
the Achilles Heel of Computer Audio, and can only drag
down this Format. Their O.S. designs create fluxuations
in S.Q. results for Computer Audio, because they are not
designed for Computer Audio. Customers who end up on the
short end of this, will always drag down Computer Audio.
You know what is broken, yet argue against fixing it. Are
you serious about Computer Audio replacing all other Formats, or not? Then atleast find SOMEONE who is willing
to design Computer Audio for that purpose. It is not going to fall from the sky, and you are not going to get any
"Love" from Microsoft- and the rest of the gang. So...
besides throwing rocks, what else are you going to do to
improve the design/reliabilty/consistency of Computer
Audio? Please...FOR GODS SAKE...NOT MORE BANDAIDS!!!
You want Computer Audio, then do something about it- I
DARE YOU! Now that should do it. I happen to love Music,
unlike you know who- that you are relying on to design the
O.S. for Computer Audio. I am NOT the one holding you back!

Streaming from where, the Internet, Computer Hard Drive,
Thumbnail Memory Stick, PS Audio Memory Buffer? Downloading
is supposed to lead to "Soon all new Music will only be
available as Music Downloads". You want an entire Album
from HD Tracks in High Rez. Download, how do you get that
without downloading through your O.S.? You are still going to need some Web Browser Internet Access to gain access to
these High Res. Music Files. How do you pay for it online?

This is different, Planckscale. I don't think that we are
a very small niche market for the Computer Companies to
care about, I think that they don't need/want our
business period! I think that they resent anyone trying to
shove Computer Audio down their throats. They do just fine
business wise without supporting High Rez. Downloads! They can only sabotage Computer Audio at every turn. Glass is empty after they swallow it, and you with it. A Turntable/
CD Player Manufacturer that hates designing Turntables/CD
Players. How do you design around that? How can anyone
even suggest trying to design around these guy's? You can't design Computer Audio with these guy's dragging you down. If Pigs could fly, sure; but if the Pigs even refuse to try- what is the point! Gee, it was a nice idea/Format
while it lasted. I can't continue to fight you, and them,
even to save Computer Audio from its own worst enemies.
It is just too much! We will just have to live with no
Audio Format if Microsoft, and gang get their way! Hope
everyone is satisfied with that! Don't delude yourself
otherwise, Computer Manufacturer's are lower than lawyers!

Hfisher3380- what exactly is it that YOU want? Oh
yeah, "Someday all New Music will only be available as
Downloads", and all of our Music needs will be handled
by Microsoft/Apple/Macintosh extreme apathy team. What you
want is to help yourself to the elimination of any
competing Audio Format. You demand that "WE" buy into
"THIS", Bandaid ASIO's- this is what you are selling?
There is nothing that anyone can design around these
Operating Systems, that is my point! Only the extreme
apathy team can design an O.S. from the ground up to
improve Computer Audio, and still provide enough processing for other functions. They just don't want to spend the money doing it. It is no big secret, they will tell you to your face. We have had years of Bandaid ASIO's
for our O.S., they are just wearing too thin. You are
making Computer Audio into a Patchwork, a jigsaw with a
couple of pieces gone. Be gracious enough to pull the plug
on this terminal patient, if you are not going to try and
improve its condition! Get serious for once if you want to take over the entire Planet with a New Audio Format. With
what, a Whiffle Bat with Bandaids/Bubble Gum/and Rubber
Bands? Sure, that will make you the toughest Bully on the
Block! Still think that Microsoft, and gang, will still be
kicking your butt! Ditto on them butt kicking your High
Rez. Computer Audio downloading. I'm going to sit back and
enjoy it! They will keep High Rez. Computer Audio twisting in the wind forever- because they can, and you allow it!
Design around that- you can't! You enjoy them kicking your
butt, you enjoy the desperation of struggling to clean up
their O.S. mess? They unravel what anyone tries to design-
pathetic, and you beg for more! You beg alone.

Not giving up on Computer Audio, I still use it. I don't
get how Computer Audio is supposed to replace all other
Audio Formats, when it is being designed by Anti-Audio
Computer Manufacturer's (Microsoft, Apple, MacIntosh...
etc). It would be like hiring Furniture Manufacturers,
who cant stand one iota of Music, to build the worlds best
sounding Turntable. They don't have to, why would they want to, how can you bet the Farm that they will come through, how can you force the rest of us to bet the same.
You have an Anti-Music radical rogue element in your
formulation of Computer Audio- Microsoft, Apple, Macintosh.
They design Anti-Music, Pro-everything else O.S. and
software. They skimp on the Music end, and shift all of the
design perogative to everything Computer wise that is not
Music. This is Sabotage to Computer Audio, and your plan is
to use the Tools they design to create a Computer Audio to
replace all other Audio Formats? This sounds like a joke to
me, and it sounds alot more than a little mad! The idea
that you could touch up their Frankenstein Monster with a little dab of make-up (Wasapi,ASIO, Kernel Streamimg
Bandaids), what kind of creature are you playing with here?
You think that I am crazy? You actually believe that you have created life. Take another long look at that piecemeal Creature you have created- a crime against nature! You owe all of your results to these Computer Manufacturer's jigsaw puzzle of Abi-normal Software. You
are proud of this Dr. Frankenstein, and upset that more refuse to help. My only suggestion was that you scrap the
Frankenstein Monster and start over again...and BOY-
did I ever end up being chased by villagers with torches
and pitchforks! You have got the wrong target...oh what is the use? Now you want your Creature to toss the little girl
(Other Audio Formats) into the river- nice touch! You and
your Computer Manufacturer feinds are respondsible for that
"THING" running amuck- YOU take full respondsibility for it! I am NOT cleaning up after your mess, you do it!

Nothing to design around- so what do you need Wasapi,
ASIO, and Kernel Streaming for? Nothing to design around,
just skip it. Why should you need any of these in the first place? Who would design a System requiring them for
Audio, and why would they design it that way? Why don't
any Computer Manufacturer's include these in their O.S.
Software? How many years have these 3 Audio Software
patchworks been around? Why does it take three hours to
download an hours worth of High Rez. Downloads. Technology moves forward, anything that doesn't keep up falls behind.
Everything Computer wise non-Musical has moved forward by leaps and bounds. Compared to this Computer Audio has not kept up. Anything that doesn't keep up falls behind. If it
is behind the curve, and no-one cares to change this, what
is the point of making it the only Alpha Audio Format?
This is only an extreme exercise in redundancy. There is
only one ultimate conclusion, no sense in even including a
redundant Computer Audio Application in a Computer. It
would just be inconvenient taking away processing power from other more popular, and useful Applications. Now I
am trying to keep Computer Audio relevant, and avoid this.
You can't have Computer Audio relevant by making Audio
irrelevant. This lack of logic can only snake around and
bite you...you know where! Convenience over Sound Quality
makes Audio irrelevant. Well, we used to listen to Music-
a long, long, long ,long, l-o-n-g time ago. Slippery slope
a long way down, and no going back. Hope you know what you are doing, I have my doubts! Don't you "LIKE" Music?

My apologies Timlub, that was not meant for you. It
would seem that ASIO patches are required to bypass
much of the processing involved with O.S. Computer
Audio. Why was this extra Processing installed prior
to requiring Wasapi, and Kernel Streaming? Why not
include Wasapi, and Kernel Streaming as standard for Computer Audio?
Music File type is a never ending open ended
affair no doubt requiring alot of Processing for all
of these different Music File Types. It is simply way
too many chefs here radically spoiling the broth. We
need some consistency here, a Standard that will allow
all Customers to plan ahead to establish their Computer
Audio for High End. You have Computer Audio going in fifty different directions with 50 different File Types, 6 plus
different Formats with a New One every week, multiple
ASIO Patches, maybe thousands of different permutations
based on these alone. Computer Audio is so open ended
that it would dissolve in water. Can't get a grip on it
if it just runs between your fingers. What is the selling point here? What is Computer Audio? Anything that you want it to be! Then what is it that I am buying so that I know
the value compared to what I am required to give up for it? There is no answer!
The biggest issue Timlub, is that Computer Audio
SHARE the market with other Audio Formats until Computer
Audio can decide on some direction. Let it mature, and
develop some consistency in reliability. If enough people
appreciate that, they will switch. It is just that you have inpertinent children who can't wait that long. They
want to shove it down everyone's throat yesterday, and
shove all other Formats out 10 years ago. They do not
understand the words "Gradual Transition" for the sake
of concideration with other Customer's. Historically this
is how you create a new Audio Market Format, not by nuking everyone who is unsure! You guy's creep me out, and you are only succeeding in scaring away the Customer's-WHY?

Not confused Hfisher3380. Just tired of exchanging endless
barbs accomplishing nothing. I still believe that Computer
Audio has a huge potential. I also know that it is still a
diamond in the rough, even those who support it have to
admit as much. I believe that it needs more exposure to
competition in the Audio Market to mature. To share the Audio Market in order to adapt to it. Once you see a huge
increase in Music Selection in High Rez. Downloads, then the question of making Computer Audio the Alpha Audio Format can be raised. Getting there, but still not ready!
Computer Audio still needs to deliver the goods (Music
Selection) to sell itself. Too many fly by night Audio
Formats, here today, gone tomorrow. A little skitishness,
and "show me the goods first" is normal in this Market.

I don't know what more you guy's want! I have already
conceeded that Computer Audio has a huge potential. I
am only antagonistic, because it seems that many are
apathetic towards making Computer Audio fulfill that
potential. Only after it has fulfilled it's potential
can it then seriously be concidered for Alpha Format
Status. Still waiting to see if Music Selection in High Rez. Downloads can seriously get off of the ground,
although selection is definitely improving. With M.S.a
little thin, why give up other Formats prematurely untill High Rez. Computer Audio gets its selection ducks
in a row. The real Market testing ground will determine
if Computer Audio has real staying power, or will it end
up like SACD, DVD-Audio. Alot of us got burned on those
two. Forgive us, but some still feel that "Twice Burned,
three times shy"! Patience, time will determine fate of
Computer Audio. Rushing it too fast can only be detrimental! Nobody should be blamed for being cautious
after third degree burns from SACD, DVD-Audio. Need
something a little more "Substantial" this time in Music
Selection before diving in. This time that pool had better be full of water, and I want to see it first!

Proof is in High Rez. Download Music Selection. This is
where the rubber meets the road of the Audio Market.
Music Selection for SACD/DVD-Audio was too thin. They
did not penetrate the Market. Many dived in anyways,
cracked their skulls on the thin Music Selection of both.
Pool was empty. Some have learned their lesson this time with Computer Audio- it's High Rez. Music Selection just as thin. No sense diving in this time until this changes. No sense letting go of other Formats to dive in, not until Music Selection in High Rez. Downloads changes. How much
abuse are our Skulls supposed to take? Common Sense
Consumer Protectionism. Best Consumer Strategy is wait
and see. Your "Impending Doom" high pressure salesmanship
not withstanding! "Soon all New Music will only be
available as Music Downloads"- or you will take my first
born? If there is any validity in Computer Audio, you
wouldn't need to use Impending Doom- so why do you use it?

One guy says he doesn't understand what I am trying to get
across two thirds of the time. The other guy understands
me perfectly, and is extremely annoyed as a result. Half
of the buying Public is sold on Computer Audio. The other
half is waiting for Computer Audio to prove itself first.
One way to prove itself is adequate Music Selection in High Rez. Downloads. You are failing to convince the other
half that "Someday all New Music will ONLY be available as
Music Downloads". It sounds like an ultimatum to all other
Audio Formats, and it sounds like Impending Doom! It also
sounds like half of the American Public are not going to be persuaded with this Impending Doom approach. They are
not impressed- still you continue to push it! It is
Presumptuous and aggravating. It will only persuade those
against Computer Audio, who are sitting on the fence today! NICE JOB! Is Computer Audio your "Offer that we can't refuse"? If that is not Impending Doom- what is?

"I think Computer Audio done right can easily beat an optical player in the same price range, based on my
experience and what I have heard (which is a ton). I also
believe that Computer Audio done wrong can sound horrible."
These are your words, I am not putting ANY words in your
mouth! Based on your experience (which is a ton), why not
tell us about your experience when Computer Audio has been
done wrong and sounded horrible? If for no other reason, to
give fair warning to any novice getting into Computer Audio. Nobody here (including yourself) will do this
because "YOU" are the one with the agenda! Even if doing so
would help promote Computer Audio by helping others to avoid pitfalls! No- you wont do this! You are Computer Audio's worst enemy, by not allowing it to progress- and
improve. You wont admit Computer Audio's weaknesses, block
any correction, and enable it to remain stagnate! You are
the reason why no one should get involved in Computer Audio, and others like you. You are shoving your version of
"Perfect Sound Forever" down everyone's throat. Only after
you get over yourself (and others) can Computer Audio
correct itself, and progress to be concidered the only Audio Format. You are just dead weight holding it down. So
long as this continues Computer Audio "CANNOT" be concidered ready to become the only Format! You get nothing
for free from this Audio Market- "EARN IT"! Grow up and
accept it! You can't seem to get others to adopt this Format, pure and simple! Maybe "YOU" are the problem, not
Computer Audio!

I am listening, Hfisher3380. Your last response was an
honest assessment of Computer Audio. Still, like pulling teeth to get this honest assessment. Others "DO" believe
that Computer Audio should replace all other Audio Formats.
Creating a Monopoly will never establish an alternate High
End Sound Quality Audio Format. Once other Audio Formats
are gone, the temptation to dumb down Sound Quality for the
sake of profit will be too great. Why would they do it,
because they can, you enabled them to do so, not a damn
thing anyone will be able to do about it, they know that,
you've painted everyone else into a corner, and it is the most profitable- so why not? They wouldn't because they love us? Way too thin for Alpha Format Status. You are
placing your valuable Music in the hands of used car
salesmen. They will lie, cheat, and steal to give you less-
and charge you more for it. You haven't given them any reason "NOT" to do so! This is very troubling to many other
Audiophiles. Need some guarantee, like larger High Rez.
Downloads Music Selection, TO-KEEP-THEM-HONEST! Not another
SACD, not another DVD-Audio! Short Selection List (SACD.DVD-Audio), something is definitely crooked for the third time in a row now. BUYER BEWARE- Computer Audio is no exception! Show me the Music Selection first, last, and
always! Why work harder, and pay more for my Audio Format-
so that we can progress backwards?

"Someday all New Music will only be available as Music
Downloads". I can guarantee you that it is "NOT" likely
to happen. Computer Audio is still coming out as 50/50.
Half are extremely satisfied, half are extremely dis-satisfied with the Sound Quality. You want to pave over,
sweep under the rug, ignore, ridicule, anyone who has a
serious technical issue with the Sound Quality of Computer Audio. ANYTHING BUT CORRECT IT! You don't correct it, it happens again and again and again. Dis-satisfaction
accumulates, and it will make swiss cheese out of any
likelyhood of Computer Audio replacing all other Formats.
The wheels of Computer Audio are falling off way too many times, the word is already out on the street! I ask you
to atleast glue the wheels back on just to save this Format. You live in denial, and insist that it isn't a problem. Do nothing, and allow Computer Audio to rack up
enough failure to establish a pattern of unreliability.
I was trying to save Computer Audio, but if you want to make me the bad guy trying to end it- guess my job here is done! Computer Audio is likely to shoot itself in the foot
before it ever replaces any Audio Format. With the assistance of Microsoft, Apple, Macintosh, and you guys-
failure is guaranteed! So sad, it had such great potential!

Agree with you 100% Mapman. Until this occurs (As you have
described in your response) there is no sense in even talking about doing away with other Audio Formats.
Sometimes New Formats take 5-10 years for greater than 70%
Market penetration. The Tool for this has to be ever
increasing Music Selection. People have to feel that they are not going to lose their favorite Music transitioning to
a New Format, as other competing Formats go by the way side. I still don't see why we shouldn't take advantage of having more than one Audio Format. I know that some believe
in multiple Formats; but, some are just militant about
Computer Audio taking over the entire Audio Market yesterday. They don't seem to care about giving people
enough time to transition. Increase High Rez. Music Selection, so people don't lose their favorite Music when
rug is pulled from under old Audio Format. I look at High
Rez. Download Music Selection, and I don't see a plan for
careful transition to protect everyone's Music. Selection
is slowly increasing, this is changing. Use this Barometer
as a measuring stick to determine if pulling older Audio
Format is premature- adjust accordingly. Impatience is
absolutely "NOT" convenient. Getting rid of all other Audio Formats yesterday, in favor of Computer Audio, is just a Train Wreck- not a transition. No sense being militant about it. New Format (High Rez. Download) should be of higher Sound Quality than old Format (CD). Even swap
of CD for same Rez. Computer Audio is just that- an even swap, or very close. It is not a large step up in transition as High Rez. Downloads would be. This has to be the Golden true measure of transition to a higher Sounding Format. What does second place Computer Audio get you? The
American Public love a winner, and will not tolerate a
loser- it is that simple!

No sense making something obsolete that doesn't require-
Wasapi, Kernel Streaming, ASIO, That is not subject to
Computer Virus, That is not subject to fragmentation, That
is not subject to Hard Drive Crash, That is not subject to
Back-up Hard Drive Crash, That is not subject to powerful
magnets wiping out memory, That doesn't put your entire
vulnerable Music Collection in one place (Eggs in one basket), That is not subject to Hard Drive Errors...etc...
etc...etc. An extra 5th Wheel? Try an extra 20 Wheel
conglomeration! Compared to that, something that gets by
on four Wheels (CD) is hardly obsolete. Compared to CD,
Computer Audio looks like an Audio Format built by
Committee. It requires massive amounts of redundant steps
easily bypassed with CD. You also don't have to search for Meta Data either. Computer Audio is an Audio Format that is
done the "HARD WAY"! Hardly conductive to relaxation with
Music. I mean waiting three hours to Download High Rez.
Music Files....pop a Disk in a machine and you are done!
No Software, no headaches...just "MUSIC"! If Music is not the point, then what is?

Just in case the Big One drops? You mean "SKYNET", the same
loving source for your Computer Audio? I thought that was
just a story! If you are driving a V.W. Bug with 20 Wheels
on it, with a Transmission that has 200 redundant gears,
please drop a big one on that Committee designed monstrosity! Just want to play some Music here, not go to the Moon Mr. Chairman of the Rocket Science Committee.
Computer Audio is going to end up on the same Scrap Heap as the Space Shuttle. The Scrap Heap of obsolete, too many
redundant moving parts, costs way more than you will ever get out of it, Boondoggle. Computer Audio, a Swiss Army
Knife with a Sink- and Sauna attached to it??? What the hell is this for a simple Audio Format? Heaven forbid if
you ever redesigned a Saxaphone- or any other Musical
Instrument! It would require Wasapi, and Kernel Streaming as well- and replace all other Saxaphones. Heaven help us!
Don't you dare touch our Musical Instruments next with your Rocket Science Committee Computer Audio Design
mentality! You are starting to scare the hell out me, and
making that Bunker look a little better! You are more dangerous than the Big One. Is this Nerd Gothic Computer
obsession, or what? Do you also want to create a hundred
redundant steps for me to put on my pants as well? Get yer greedy paws off of my Pants- same for my CDs! Plug
and Play CD doesn't require any "Computer Magic", therefore
it wont waste your time with silly gimmicks- just Music.
You also wont be wasting your time having to design your
Music Storage (Software, Metadata, Music File Format...etc)
from scratch. You already have that in the palm of your
hand- it is called a Shortcut around all of the Computer
Garbage. You know it as a CD. Spend more time listening to
Music, that is it's purpose after all- not trying to decypher the "Matrix".

No...no...no...not more challenging, just ten times more
tasking- especially when compared to simple plug-n-play CD.
I am happy with what I am hearing too! Just confused as to
why I should accept ten times more Tasking for replacement
of CD. Paying for it on top of that is a crime against
humanity! This sounds like something they would make you do in North Korea, or something. Don't tow the Party Line on Computer Audio: you get it, your wife gets it, your
children, your parents...etc. Happy for you, happy to share
Audio Market with you. Support you seizing the Audio Market, and turning it into a North Korean Concentration
Camp? You go ahead and try to touch my Relatives, or my CDs! Working longer, and harder for your Music is your choice. Don't deny someone the opportunity to work shorter,
and smarter with way less tasking for their Music! Three
Hour High Rez. Download indeed- this must be a joke! You
are "NOT" welcome very much.

Chadeffect- I already have a Server without the necessity
of having it all built in. It is called "CD"! It definitely
"BYPASSES" all Computer Issues. Don't make me list those issues again, your wearing me out. You already know them
well.
"If you don't believe that Computer Audio has arrived yet as a viable replacement for CD, or even Vinyl...."
Another Ultimatum?
"Petty, neither I, nor anyone else is denying you
anything and I am not quite sure why you continually state
this. Show me the proof that anyone who has adopted
Computer Audio is trying to deny you anything"
Where I come from this is called Double Talk. Four things
that I believe are worth fighting for: CD, Vinyl, Computer
Audio, and the free use of "ALL" of these Formats. Nothing
is a viable replacement for anything, especially with thin
Music Selection of High Rez. Downloads. Even swap for CD
resolution Downloads are "Even Swap/Second Best"! I love a
winner, and absolutely will not tolerate a loser (Second Best). I am not alone! There are many more who will not accept "Viable Replacement", until issues with Computer Audio are worked out- especially lack of High Rez. Downloads. Show us the money first, otherwise you are just
wasting our time. You are not serious, and Computer Audio
should not be taken seriously- until this changes! No free
rides in this Audio Market. It is all up to you to take the
initiative, don't and Computer Audio can't help but go down in flames- same as SACD/DVD-Audio. Are you going to let SACD/DVD-Audio happen again with Computer Audio? Try
doing something different than those other two Formats, but
you will fight tooth and nail against this! The problem is
that Computer Audio never stood a chance against the likes of you, locked in concrete against any criticism for
improvement. You are strangling it to death, and it is a
shame.

What part of, "Soon all New Music will only be available as
Music Downloads" do you not understand?
What part of, "If you don't believe that Computer Audio has
arrived yet as a viable replacement for CD, or even Vinyl..." do you not understand?
These are overt aggressive statements threatening
Impending Doom for all other Audio Formats. These words are
being used to persuade, and convince. Can you read the
"Proof" between the lines of these Statements? Can you read
the intent? What more proof do you need from an Ultimatum?
What does the word "Ultimatum" mean to you- an absence of
proof? Even by definition, an Ultimatum is pretty definitive. It pretty much means "absence of any doubt",
yet you still have your doubts? These are threats, they are meant to cajoule- they are meant to intimidate.
Certainly intimidate those who demand to use other Audio Formats. In case you haven't noticed, I don't give into
intimidation very well. I also demand choices. One choice
is not a Free Market- more like Slavery! Force us into one
Audio Format with "Impending Doom" statements like these-
is overt aggressive Slavery. Freedom is giving Consumers the power of choice, not using Impending Doom Intimidation
to eliminate choice. There is a big difference even if you can't see it. One means that you are under threat if you
don't comply with your Audio Format Purchases- got it?
Yeah, this makes my skin crawl alright! Like having a gun
held to your head. You are being hyper aggressive shoving
Computer Audio down everyone's throat, some are bound to
be a little aggressive right back. You are surprised?

When someone is aggressive against your Audio Format, and
intends to replace all Audio Formats with Computer Audio,
time to go fishing? You give grief, you get it right back.
You give stress, you get it right back. Call it
Phycological Reciprocity, Karma, or whatever you want to call it. I call it trying to push someone's button, or
pull their string. You are left with no choice; but, to return the favor, unless you look weak. No aggression here
about replacing Computer Audio with another Audio Format.
Why this militant aggression of forcing Computer Audio to
replace all other Audio Formats? I want "Live and Let Live"
with all Audio Formats including Computer Audio. You want
"Live, and Wage War to Eliminate All Other Audio Formats"!
You are turning it into some kind of a Crusade or something. Yes, we all know what happened to all non-
believers during the last Crusade- it was very stressful!
Not alot of time for fishing. So when someone starts
talking about starting another Crusade, that is when
"Fight or Flight Response" kicks in. It is sort of like being the Fish on the recieving end of that hook and rod.
Just because you find it relaxing, doesn't mean the Fish
feel relaxed as well. When you are being hunted your stress
level has a tendency to go up a notch. You want me, the
Consumer, to look weak and helpless having to rely on only
one Audio Format- Computer Audio. This instead of having
purchasing power to select amongst many Audio Formats.
You want all Consumers to become like "Fish out of Water"?
Why, what did we ever do to you? We aren't Fish, so stop
trying to treat us as such!

"I want-Live And Let Live- with all Audio Formats, including Computer Audio"! Sheesh- I have to quote myself?
Can you guy's read? Did I.Q.'s just drop off sharply?
Mapman- you are completely way off base! I want to be able to play my CD's in a CD Player, and be able to Rip them- I
want both! I also want to be able to Download. I do not want one to be mutually exclusive of all others, as some
Computer enthusiasts would desire. I do use Computer Audio,
and CD, SACD, DVD-Audio, XRCD, K2 HDCD. I pick and choose
the Sound Quality that I like across many Formats. Most
Formats sound like a mixed bag of S.Q.! Same release in
one Format might sound wonderful, in another Format it
sounds awful. Different release ends up in reverse order.
People are generalizing about which Format sounds best.
Whatever your preferences may be. A single Audio Format,
Computer Audio Downloading, eliminates my purchasing power
by minimizing my choices as a Consumer of other Audio Formats. This would be desirable for Manufacturer's to
maximize profits. It would also allow Manufacturer's to
shoot Consumers like "Fish in a Barrel". This is what you
think the Market will dictate, no matter what you or I think; But, you desire it never the less. Yes, the Market can dictate a Monopoly of only one Audio Format. No one likes a Monopoly that makes the American Consumer weak, and
helpless. Eliminate the purchasing power of the Consumer, and there will be a backlash! Backlash against what? The
only thing that you will be left with will be Computer Audio. You want to exclude other Audio Formats, and you are very aggressive towards that goal. I am arguing a losing battle of inclusion, which you seem to be picking apart like meat off of a corpse! Not exactly Live and Let Live towards all other Audio Formats. Make up your mind what you really want! You can't be a Predator, and be polite towards your Prey (Other Audio Formats)- maybe if
you were a Spider you might be a little bit more convincing. If you call my other Audio Formats Prey, I believe you. You think that you can be polite about it?

Wow, hit a nerve? I am not trying to tell you what you want, I am trying to understand what "IT IS" that you want
with: "Soon all New Music will only be available as Music
Downloads"! It would appear that you desire a vacuum of any
other competing Audio Format, and the elimination of any
alternate purchasing choices that I might have. I am kind of surprised by this! You say that the Market will dictate
this regardless of what you desire. We call that a
"Monopoly" in a Capitalist Society "WHENEVER" a Manufacturer manipulates the Market towards a single
purchasing choice. You say that this is the way it is going to be. I say that it is very, very, very bad- and
requires immediate correction. Any Monopoly always turns out to be bad for the Consumer, even eventually bad for the
Manufacturer, and especially bad for the Market (This case:
Audio)! Economic History bears this out, it isn't even
close to being arguementative- from the Great Depression to
our current Recession. Monopolies collapse- and you want to put Computer Audio in the middle of this collapse? Well,
I guess that will leave us with "No Audio Format"! Thanks
alot for looking after us instead of your ego.

Get over yourself- Gsself! Simple differences of opinion are not "Train Wrecks", more akin to a "Democracy"?
Revisionist History? I can't think of a single Monopoly
where the Economy thrived- going back thru the entire
Economic History of the U.S.! Perhaps I am wrong, can you give me an example? I believe that they have a tendency to
cause Recessions, and Depressions. The Audio Market is, after all a Market. I don't believe that it is immune to these. Change can either be good, offering more choices for
the Consumer empowering him. Change can also be bad, eliminating options that limit the Consumer depowering him.
I am simply trying to acknowledge the economic risk here
for the Consumer, in limiting his options to just only one
Audio Format- Computer Audio Downloading. The risk here is
in making Audio so irrelevant (Compared to other popular Computer Functions) that even Computer Audio goes by the
wayside. As you said, "Change is universal, nothing stands still"! Nothing makes Audio more irrelevant than lower than
CD Resolution MP3. Keep on lowering the resolution to the point of irrelevancy/ oblivion. Why waste the Processing
Power keeping it around? If your idea of change is to make
Audio irrelevant to its inevitable end, I disagree with you that this is a "Good Idea" for change sake only. Needs
of the many, the many need Music- not Audio made irrelevant
no matter how much Profit can be made off of this. Your
type of change puts the needs of the Computer over the needs of Audio, especially Computer Audio. How does this
help us who are in the Consumer business of Audio? We pay
more, we get less resolution/sound quality. "WOW- I'll buy
THAT for a dollar"!

I compare Music Selection between lower than CD resolution
MP3, and Music Selection of High Rez. Downloads. What a
difference, and "NO" your explanation of low rez. MP3
doesn't even come close to covering this point spread. You
think that Computer Audio is a done deal, extreme limitation in Music Selection of High Rez. Downloads "SCREAMS" different! It screams uncertainty. So
long as your Computer Audio High Rez. remains uncertain, I
have nothing to take to the Bank- and neither do you! Same
uncertainty existed in Music Selection for SACD, and DVD
Audio- where did they go? Going down the exact same road
for a third time, this time it will lead us someplace
different? You want everyone to drop their existing Audio Format, and come along for the ride? All of us being
connvinced that this time it will be different? We were
robbed investing in these other two Formats with limited
Music Selection. You want to lure us with the same limited Music Selection again in High Rez. Computer Audio? No Sir,
you show us the Product first BEFORE we invest in it! You
got no Product? Well, then you've got nothing to replace all other Audio Formats with- atleast something of
significant Higher Resolution. Try EARNING our trust instead of just demanding it on a silver platter. This makes you upset- tough! Can't stand the heat, get out of the Audio Market. We want to buy Music, not Software! You
have very little of either in High Rez., and you want to
brag about replacing all other Audio Formats? Bragging rights have to be "EARNED", and you haven't earned yours yet. Keep working on it!

Timlub- you haven't seen my responses for the last two weeks. You jump into the middle of the conversation, and start hurling unsubstantiated allegations.
Tpreaves- you start making general broad strokes about
someones personnal life that you know nothing about. You
have never met me, you know absolutely nothing about me.
You decide to make it up as you go along.
If this reflects the attitude of those who wish to
promote Computer Audio, your attitude speaks volumes. Is
this what Computer Audio does to everybody? Why would this
Audio Format create this type of attitude in people, as
opposed to all other Audio Formats? I use Music for
personal enjoyment, not to polish my ego- nor to rub
someone's nose in it. I enjoy having choices in multiple Audio Formats, I have more choices to make based on Sound
Quality. I do not take an elitist attitude that only one
Audio Format is the Elite compared to all others. I hear
mixed bag of Sound Quality when comparing Audio Formats,
none of them hardly elite above all others. You can call me names, or whatever- I am sticking to this! I do use
Computer Audio, on those selections that it does provide
better Sound Quality. Use it exclusively, and I lose other
better sounding options on certain selections. I am a
Consumer interested in the best quality, and I go where I
find the best quality. You wish to eliminate those places
( Music CD Stores ), or make me have to purchase over
longer distance- and pay extra for shipping. Make me wait weeks to listen to Music CD instead of just taking it home
from the Store. I know these are road blocks designed to
corral people towards Computer Audio. It is this manipulation that bothers me the most. If Computer Audio is the Answer to Life/ Universe/ and Everything- why would
you need to manipulate anyone? Your attitude speaks volumes
about your intent to manipulate. Try selling Computer Audio
instead of just pulling everyone's string, and pushing their buttons. People will resent it less, I certainly
would. You have to force everyone to listen to Computer
Audio exclusively? Why, what's wrong with it? That is what
I ask. All that I hear is what's right with it- so why
the necessity to manipulate?

"You can chose CD quality or higher if you want", haven't
I just been gripping about lack of Music Selection in High
Rez. (higher?) Downloads- and I am not keeping up? High
Rez. Downloads are what's not keeping up, more or less
ready to replace all other Audio Formats! You don't have
the product to sell; never-the-less, you are going to phase
out all product from other competing Audio Formats. Train
Wreck- this sounds like your trying to run your Train
(High Rez. Computer Audio) without any track! We tried this
with SACD/DVD-Audio, and they both ended in a ditch.
I wonder why- duhhh! You are going to try it a third time
with a Minimum Music Selection again, with High Rez.
Downloads. I must be on acid to "EXPECT THE EXACT SAME
RESULT AGAIN"! "NO ONE IS REPLACING other Formats". They are just going to disappear by osmosis? You know that when
Magicians make things disappear- it is not real Magic,
right? Oh, but maybe you do believe in real Magic. You have
nothing of higher Rez. than CD to replace CD- minimum
selection at best. You want to replace all other Railroads
after you have run your Train off of the track. I prefer to be on the Railroad that not only keeps its Trains on the Track, but reliably keeps them running on time. Crazy
me, on Acid, and practicing Defensive Consumer Purchasing-
demanding to see Product (High Rez. Music Selection) that
you don't have to sell. Why not just sell Hot Air, or Helium- same damn thing! Is that what you are selling- High
Rez. Downloadable imaginary Pet Rocks. You get holier than thou when someone refuses to buy them. I don't need to
purchase imaginary anything- you have nothing to sell. Keep
working on it!

Chadeffect- most of what you say is true; however, I have
been griping about lack of "Music Selection" in High Rez.
Downloads- prior to replacing any Audio Format. You have
been countering that CD Resolution Downloading is better
than CD, and that CD Ripping sounds better than CD. You
say that is improvement enough. I say the improvement is like the difference between CD and SACD, where did that get us with SACD? Minimum Music Selection with High Rez.
Downloads as well as SACD, where did that get us with SACD? Where is it supposed to get us with High Rez. Downloads? There is no plan here to get us to "Soon all
New Music will only be available as Music Downloads".
Are those Downloads supposed to be CD resolution, or High Rez.? What exactly are you planning on replacing other Audio Formats with, CD resolution downloads, or High Rez.
downloads? If it is going to be 99% CD resolution, some might think that all of the extra effort (Software,
Configuration, MetaData, Wasapi, Kernel Streaming...etc)
might not be worth replacing some Audio Formats. Some might
think that 99% High Rez. is a Bridge a few light years too far to bet the Farm (Other Audio Formats) on. Reasonable
people can reason differently. That is the reason that I
do not believe that "Soon all New Music will only be available as Music Downloads' is written in concrete. It
sounds like the unsinkable Titanic, or the unsinkable
Battleship. These are either Myths, or the best layed plans
of Mice and Men failing badly. If you think that this is
"Good S__t", you haven't seen nothin' yet! This is just
too thin to take to the Bank, more or less replace all
other Audio Formats with. Keep working on it!

" Where I live the high st music & film stores are gone due
to the market moving to download etc, no myth. ", same here
Chadeffect. Why then does everyone keep saying that no-one
is threatening my free use of CD? Why does everyone keep
demanding "PROOF" of this? Why do you guy's keep arguing
conflicting aspects of the same arguement? In any regard,
my arguement is "NOT" mute. This is a Monopoly that you are
describing. Monopolies do not supply high quality at low cost- that means high quality like High Rez. Downloads. They may be available temporarily as a hook to get more interested. They will quickly disappear due to the same
market that you describe. Manufacturer's will quickly
realize that most of market is purchasing CD Rez. Computer
Audio, not High Rez. Profits will dictate the market, High
Rez. just doesn't have the profit margin. Now that we have
put all of our eggs in one basket ( By allowing market to
eliminate all other competing Audio Formats ), this will be
the final blow to High Rez. anything. Proof of this- SACD,
DVD Audio! Where did they go? This is the market risk to
any consumer of Audio products. It is the risk that any
consumer faces dealing with a Monopoly on Audio Formats.
We end up being like fish out of water. Better yet, we end up being fish in a barrel for Manufacturer's to take pop
shots at. I am not anti-Capitalist. Fact is I am pro Capitalist by being anti-Monopoly. Monopolies only hurt
Markets- that includes the Audio Market! Monopolies
themselves are anti-Capitalist since there is no competition- so where is the competition here in this Audio Market?

No getting you, Chadeffect. How is the requirement of
getting a DAC that can decode: 16/44.1, 24/88, 24/96, 24/176, 24/192, and any additional Sampling Rates to be
inserted inbetween these- not elitist? You are going to need a Specialist/ Elitist/ Expensive DAC every Month for
each additional Sampling Rate. A New DAC every Month,
sounds expensive to me! Ditto for USB to Digital
Converter, or USB Input for DAC.
Poor example of model T, since only Ford made model
T car. Ford is hardly the only car Manufacturer today-
where is the potential for Monopoly? Monopolies are
created by minimizing the purchasing choices that
Consumers have. Eliminating all other Audio Formats for
the sake of one, Computer Audio, certainly minimizes
Consumer Purchasing Choices. This gives the Manufacturers
more power to enforce an anti-Capitalist Monopoly, and
leaves the Consumer weaker to defend against a Monopoly
take over of a Capitalist Audio Market. We are going to
be the Computer Audio Manufacturer's "B_TCH" for a good
long time. Hardly in a position to demand higher quality
(High Rez. Downloads) with more Music Selection. You take
what they give you in a Monopoly, or you don't get the
"Son of a B_TCH". That means whatever has the most profit
margin that benefits the Manufacturer only! Your conciderations of High Rez. become irrelevant compared to
profit. You don't have the alternate purchasing choice as
leverage, you gave that away in the form of alternate Audio
Formats. You do yourself no favors, nor anyone else. Can't
you see that?

"Just when I am almost out, they drag me back in"!
I was done with this Thread, now I feel that I am in
an Episode of the "Walking Dead"! Of course the marketing
idea is to put Computer Audio (especially Downloads) in
direct competition with other Audio Formats. The competition is deadly with Computer Audio Proponents going
for the throats of other Formats. How many more "Ultimatums" have to be stated by these Proponents?
If the decision was based on strictly sound quality alone,
that would be one thing. Instead I hear convenience, MP3
lower than CD resolution, and Downloads of equal resolution
as CD- High Resolution being a small minority of these. With Hard Drive Errors, Hard Drive Crash, Back-up Hard Drive Crash, Fragmentation, Viruses, Malware- where is the
quality? You have more software between you, and your Music
than you ever had with a CD. User friendly goes right out the window with the loss of plug-n-play CD. Computer Audio makes as much sense as a nuclear powered Can Opener. There
are easier ways, with alot less tasking, to listen to your
Music. More complicated, more moving parts, less user
friendly, Chaos Theory inviting- and still I use Computer Audio only during those instances when the Sound Quality presents itself! I have done the homework, and there are other Formats that have instances of sounding better. I am greedy! I am a Consumer. I look for many avenues of
quality. A Format has to "E-A-R-N" my business. Pulling
strings, pushing buttons, eliminating alternatives,
issuing Ultimatums- THIS only earns my consternation.
I still hold out hope that someday low Res. MP3, CD Res.
Downloads, will blossom into High Res. of real higher
quality. So long as High Res. remains in a strict minority
Computer Audio hasn't earned the right to replace anything.
Five year olds Downloading Music, isn't going to change that. You can put them in charge of running your Family, if
that is the case. If Computer Audio sounds slightly better
than CD, so did SACD without all of the user unfriendly
software hassle/ tasking- what is the point? Spend time
playing with Software, or spend it playing Music- your
choice. I demand that choice! Of course they call me
"Certifiable" for that! So what- commit me!

For me it still remains a mixed bag of sound quality across
all Formats. Anyone says that they have never heard a really lousy Vinyl Record, lousy High Res. Download, lousy
sounding SACD/ DVD Audio/ or CD- I certainly don't believe
them! Way too many broad strokes. I will hop from one Format to the next to get the sound quality I want, and
pick-choose along the way. All of that goes out the window
if "Soon all new Music will only be available as Music Downloads". That is the ultimatum of impending doom. It is
meant as a warning that soon you won't be able to rely on
any other Audio Formats. It is meant to cajoule, herd,
panic, and stampede. It is phsycological extortion- a tool
to pull peoples strings regardless weither it is fact or not. It is not a true measure of the worthiness in quality
of a new Format if the purpose is to panic everyone.
Competition among many Formats is the only way to keep
sound quality standards high. Single Format exclusiveness
only goes the way of irrelevancy like the DO-DO Bird and
eight track. We certainly didn't concider "Soon all new Music will only be available on 8-Track". Sound Quality
in the Market would have been ALOT different if we had.
Thank God we held onto other Formats! This costs Manufacturers Profits to maintain High Sound Quality. Their
goal is to still corral the Audio Market around a single
Format. Eliminate the competing Formats that compels them
to dip into their Profits to maintain high sound quality-
i.e. low res. MP3. No reason to replace all Formats with an
exclusive one, unless it is for Profit. Sound Quality goes
down (MP3) only to boost Profits up. They maintain a
stranglehold on releases available as High Res. Downloads.
It is a trickle, but it is getting better. If you see a
flood, that is the time to concider exclusively switching
Formats. It is a Chicken vs Egg business proposition with
these characters. Don't trust their promises on High Res.
Downloads yet- same promises made with SACD! Make them
show us the product first. Common sense Consumer Protectionism, but what do I know? I am crazy, ask anyone!

"Soon all new Music will only be available on Vinyl Disk",
Nope- haven't heard that from Vinyl Enthusiasts.
"Soon all new Music will only be available as SACD",
Nope- haven't heard that from SACD Enthusiasts.
"Soon all new Music will only be available on Blue-Ray
Audio", Nope- haven't heard that from Blue-Ray Audio
Enthusiasts. Ad Nauseum for every single Format out there
other than Computer Audio. Many claim that their particular
Format sounds better than others, but no-one has suggested
the total elimination of all other Formats for the sake of
their favorite. Apparently, Computer Audio is the ONLY
Format that requires the elimination of all other competing
Formats- to insure of its continued success in the
Marketplace. It is the only one whose Enthusiasts demand
(Under Threat of Impending Doom to other Formats) that
everyone switch over yesterday. Single Format, Manufacturer's lower Sound Quality, Manufacturer's boost
Profit, and what recourse would you have? Threaten to switch to another Format if they don't produce more High
Res. Downloads? They would never do this? They already have
with lower than CD Resolution MP3. This was a business
proposition they used to boost their Profits, yet you still
trust them with producing more High Res. Downloads. Again,
Common Sense Consumer Protectionism- VERIFY that larger
selection in High Res. Downloads is being produced. Crazy
me kicking tires, and checking the quality of a product
(Format) before I commit to purchasing it exclusively! You
are cynical towards me. I am cynical towards Mr.
production of lower than CD Res. MP3- especially if he is
promising me the Holy Grail of High Res. Download Selection. If I have nothing to take to the Bank yet- I am
not exclusively buying it. Crazy me to include a Backup
Format- I thought that is what Computer Audio Enthusiasts
did with Backup Hard Drives! I see, when I do it I must be
on Drugs. Just let all existing Audio Formats be. You
remember the Beatles Song, "Let It Be". When the quality,
and selection is there people will seriously concider
switching. If it doesn't happen, then no-one was serious
about producing High Res. Downloads after all. Now where
would that leave us without any alternative? I am not
paying any hard money for a whole lotta "Soon To Be"! I
would be "NUTS" to do so.

I had moved on, Chadeffect. Someone else had ressurected
this Thread "Walking Dead" Style. You would know this if
you had kept up with the Thread. I still don't get your
Orwellian "Doubletalk", or "Doublespeak" within the same
breath. You say no-one is threatening to eliminate
competing Formats. Then you say (In the same breath) that
it is just that most people own Computers, and that it is
just a natural selection. You are making me dizzy with your
hopping from one foot to the next. Would most of these
people, who own Computers, be listening to mostly lower
than CD Resolution MP3? I hear that there is alot of Profit
in that. Invest your time, and money in that if your Sound
Quality takes a back seat to someone elses Profit! They might even thank-you for it. One can always hope. Just
don't expect strictly Profit motivated Computer Audio Manufacturers to suddenly turn away from lower than CD Res. MP3 Profitability, and risk Margin in boosting
costly High Res. Download Selection. It is not that they
could produce High Res. more inexpensively, it is just that
Profit Margin on larger Low Res. MP3 market will always be
many times greater. Even if I were them I would have to ask: "Why in the World am I even wasting so much of my
resources on High Res. Downloads with a tiny Market? Now
low Res. MP3- LOOK AT ALL OF THAT CHEDDAR!!! Just got to
get over that hump of percieved lower Sound Quality. Just
gotta delude everyone to get onboard with false promises
of a soon to be gravy train of High Res. Selection (SACD 2.0)". Congradulations, you have just become the 21st Century version of "Pavlov's Dogs". They ring a bell, you will drool, and you will pay anything to be fed. You wont even mind the low quality taste of the dirt you are being fed, after all it is the most convenient thing for you to feed on- especially if it is the only thing available for you to feed on! You wont even remember what High Res., or High Quality anything is anymore. Some of us just don't want to go there with our Music, because we are just "PARANOID" of sound quality becoming THAT irrelevant! We are funny that way. You want exclusionary Format
Authority over everyone? You have to earn it with a large
enough selection in High Res./ High Quality. "Soon all
new Music will only be available as lower than CD Resolution MP3 Downloads"- Ooops! Where did we go wrong
Mr. "WESTWORLD"? Me thinks that you will never be ready to
take over the Audio Market with this level of incompetence.
Try not tying your shoelaces (Logic and Reason) together
in a knot. Try following the "MONEY" to determine someones
intent, and motivation for a change, KAA-CHING!!!

I don't call lowering sound quality down to less than CD
Resolution MP3 as being "Flexible"! I see a historical
trend of dumming down sound quality from Vinyl to CD, and
then from CD to lower Resolution MP3. What will be the
lower resolution Computer Audio of tomorrow, and will it
squeeze out any chance for High Res. anything? This is
flexibility? Eight Track, and Cassettes were flexible-
I don't see them around anymore. Keep the trend of lowering
resolution going, and pretty soon these ancient Formats
would sound better. How about if we cut the resolution of
low res. MP3 in half to really boost flexibility. Keep
cutting it in half again, and again doubling our flexibility everytime. What is your point? Put square tires
on your car to increase flexibility in choice of tires?
There was a time when the idea of a New Format meant an
increase in Sound Quality, not the flexibility of worse
Sound Quality. Where is the flexibility in Music Selection
for High Resolution Downloads? All that I see is a
Computer Audio Format that is 10% High Res. Downloads, and
90%- CD Res. or Lower than CD Res. MP3. Where is the
flexibility in High Res./ High Sound Quality in that?
Don't try to sell me that it is just around the corner, or
"Soon To Be". You might as well be trying to sell me SACD
again. Show me the High Res. Selection first BEFORE we
start eliminating any Formats. You can keep the rest of
that low Res. MP3 Computer crap! Flexibility my butt! I
don't buy "Lemmons", or "Money Pits" for the sake of
flexibility. Do you purposely shop for rotten vegetables
at the local market, lower quality for the sake of
flexibility- I THINK NOT! You would have me special order
my rotten vegetables through the mail- ain't that special.
You can still buy the freshest vegetables at the local
market, unless the demand for rotten vegetables is so high
that rotten vegetables is the only thing that they stock on the shelf. The stench would be horrendous, you know that- who are you trying to kid? That is what really stinks about this whole Computer Audio Downloading Format-
the idea that lower than CD Res. isn't just acceptable, it
is encouraged by you as a "Flexible" alternative. Cans and
String are cheap/ flexible too! What is your point? "Soon
all new music will only be available via cans and string"?
Euuuwww- I am blown away by the flexibility here. You want
flexibility try Yoga. You want low res. flexibility, try
Yoga in Sewage Treatment Plant. Shoot me for trying to
aspire to non-flexible higher Sound Quality. I am just "Nuts", "Paranoid", and "On Drugs"! Raw Sewage,
Rotten Vegetable, Low Resolution Audio Formats just don't
appeal to me. Shove it down my throat, you go ahead and try!

Listen, I am onto Manufacturers selling us SACD selection-
then leaving us holding the bag. I am onto Manufacturers
selling us 16 Bit/ 44.1 CD- then leave us holding the bag
with 12-14 Bit CDs. I am onto Manufacturers selling us
DVD-Audio/MLP selection- then leaving us holding the bag on
that one. I am old, and cynical from my experience with
New Formats. If you don't hold Manufacturers feet to the fire of actually delivering larger selection of High Res.
Downloads- it will never happen. There is just too much
Profit temptation to offer the Public a cheaper lower Res.
Format via Computer Downloading. If that happens, and
lower Res. becomes "Soon all new Music will only be
available via low Res. Downloads", we do not have an
alternative in a single Format Market. Low Res. will be
the Manufacturers version of "This is not Burger King,
you take it our way or you don't get the S.O.B.". If the
Public clamors for cheaper low Res. Downloads in a single
Format Market, you no longer have any leverage to demand
any High Res. anything. I don't think that this Market
Strategy escapes these Manufacturers. They will be able to charge anything they want for low Res., and you will pay
for it dearly without any alternative. High Res. Downloading Market Share today is just a blip on the
Radar Screen. It can easily disappear permanently- like
SACD, like DVD-Audio. It is at the same stage with low
selection. Crazy me trying to preserve High Res. the third
time around by demanding a higher standard/ higher selection for Computer Audio Downloads. Eliminating other
alternatives without larger slection of High Res. Downloads
available- is the quickest way of pulling out the rug from
anything High Res. Monopoly will dictate our future of
lower sound quality. Sorry that everyone can't see it.
You can't possibly be oblivious to what happened to SACD, DVD-Audio. History WILL repeat itself if you are not careful with Computer Audio. Do what you will. This is my
final word on this. This Zombie isn't going to be Ressurected for a second time- Hell is just going to have to let me in, crowded or not! I still enjoy High Res.
Downloads, even if they do have a life span of SACD/DVD-Audio. It would be a damn shame, and a third strike for
High Res. I would be careful at what I was swinging at!

There are no suckers here, nor anyone nieve. If you can't
learn from the past market history of High Res. SACD/
DVD-Audio (And how it applies to marketing of High Res.
Downloads), I can't help you! The history of High Res.
(Disk or Download) has been to continuously rob us blind
with false promises of larger selection. It is a shell
game marketing ploy! I have earned the right to be cynical
about being burned a T-H-I-R-D time (Sheeesh!) with High
Resolution. That doesn't mean that I hope it will fail a
third time (I still use Computer Audio). It means that
I need verification that there is indeed much larger
selection available via High Res. Downloads B-E-F-O-R-E
any concideration of elimination in other Audio Formats.
The old SACD/DVD-Audio arguement that increased selection
is entirely dependent on the elimination of other Audio
Formats- THIS IS CRAP! Applying this same marketing idea
to High Res. Downloads, this is a shell game for someone
else's profitability- NOT YOURS (THE CONSUMER)!!! If you
(The Consumer) will not look after your own interest in
Sound Quality someone will steal it. With an invitation
like that, how can they not? Not against anyone making a
profit, just put on the table (Selection) what it is that
you intend to make a profit off of from me. Let me see it,
let me kick the tires, let me protect myself as a consumer. In what Universe does this make no sense? I am
in the business of purchasing High Res./ High Quality Audio, and I know what I want! A whole lot of "Hot Air",
or "Soon To Be", is NOT Music to my ears. Certainly nothing that I can take to the Bank, certainly nothing that I can use to replace my existing Music Audio Formats!
Atleast something that I can use as a Higher Resolution
Source. In this regard, you have nothing to sell me in
substantial selection of High Resolution. This can change,
B-U-T not by holding my other Audio Formats as hostage.
Holding hostages is prelude to causing Wars, still it makes no sense to you why some of us are so angered by it-
REALLY? Chadeffect- not one word in your response about
Music sampling rate of these Files. Studios are now using
a Format of even higher sampling rate than SACD/DSD for
recording. You can keep on believing that you are getting
the full resolution that was recorded in the Studio, and
paying top dollar for it. By your standard why pay a whole
lot more to download anything of "high Res", if you are
already getting everything recorded in the Studio? What
do I know, I make "NO SENSE"! Can we end this Thread now?
It no longer serves any purpose. It just rubs everyones
emotions raw. Why continue to go there?

I don't know- Hfisher. Being burned a T-H-I-R-D time
investing heavily in High Resolution (SACD,DVD-Audio,
Downloads), or being burned by you? Somehow I think the
latter is a whole hell of alot cheaper. Maybe cutting my
$$$ LOSES $$$ by limiting them to SACD/DVD-Audio selection
rip-off, perhaps that might be better. You have money to
burn risking on High Resolution Downloads not becoming the
third High Resolution casualty- knock yourself out! Some
of us are just tapped out from this economy, and tapped out
from false promises of SACD/DVD-Audio Selection. Really,
Hfisher, have you learned nothing from this High Resolution
history debacle? The market doesn't really care if it is a
High Resolution Disk, or Download- they are both just as
expensive. The Audio Market has convinced everyone that
"The majority of the American Public are not interested in
higher Audio Sound Quality"- I am! That is the reason why
I try not to allow the market to create a third High
Resolution casuality out of Downloads. The Market wants
cheap, therefore low sound quality. The Manufacturers want
to produce cheap as being way more profitable. SACD, DVD-Audio, and High Resolution Downloads (Expensive) just don't fit that mold! Single Format Market solution will
only end up being the "Final Solution" to High Resolution
Downloads (It will only be SACD/DVD-Audio 2.0). Sad, but
true because you refuse to acknowledge the risk of this
happening despite history of anything High Resolution. Your denial is fuel for this self fulfilling Prophecy. Do as you wish, do your worse! I personally would have liked to have atleast just ONE High Resolution Format that didn't implode- many regrets!!! They pretty much implode
do to apathy, and the lack of any attempt to prevent them
from imploding. You want High Resolution Downloads to
succeed, you have to fight for it. That means taking on the
manufacturers desire to produce Audio cheap, and more profitable. No-one here is willing to do that! R-I-P is
inevitable now with High Resolution, it is already way too
late! Not that this would change anyone's mind here. So
yeah, Another threat, Impending Doom. The only difference
is that it is NOT what I desire, but what you are fulfilling- despite any of my attempts otherwise. So be it-
can we end this Thread now? I will volunteer to be a pole
bearer at the Funeral, if that will make anyone happy.
I kind of liked High Resolution, I am going to miss it-
Thank-you kindly for helping to preserve it. Wish that I
could LOL, really sad day for Audio. What else needs to be said??? How about "Have we learned anything yet?", the
third time around? Guess not!

So many distortions, so little time. I will save the response to personnal attacks, Chadeffect, and go to the
heart of the matter. Recording Studios ARE using a higher
Sampling Rate TO RECORD. A higher sampling rate than even
DSD. The cost of this (Software, with mixing capability
for many multi-channels) is NOT something that you can just
whip up on a small laptop. It is not inexpensive- must you
always think small (Oooops! my bust). Some of the "Lovely
Old Formats" that I am fond of happen to be Meridian Lossless Packing Multi-Channel 24/96, 24/192 Disks. Also
SACD Disks, and I hear that Blue-Ray Audio Disks don't
sound too shabby either. High Resolution Files DO cost alot
more to MIX and MASTER using higher than DSD Multi-Channel
Format. Remastering isn't cheap either! Convenient for you
to be selective in only refering to just storing, and
Downloading the Final Master. Not one word about the
Mastering process itself- the biggest cost! Every word in
your response is a complete distortion- I call that a little more than a grasp!
Hfisher- more distortions! Your own response on 06-19-12
"Wow, Thread Resurrected.....! Are you rewriting history?
I was DONE with this Thread until one of you clowns dug it
back up. I have been trying to bury it again, except you clowns keep on coming up with a new whole set of distortions!
Mapman- you are harping about Record Players, and I don't
even own one! I would be happy with SACD, MLP, XRCD, and
even High Res. Downloads.
You guys can't even shoot straight, no wonder High Res.
keeps failing over, and over again. Like I have said many
times before, if High Res. Downloads/Computer Audio falls flat on its face it will be because of you clowns!
"Please remember that well recorded crap, or High Res. crap
is still crap. It is the Music that matters". Wasn't I the one who claimed access to many Formats desirable so that
one can cherry pick the high quality sounding ones from the rest in each Format? I have been preaching "It is
the Music that Matters" more over limiting everyone to "Soon all New Music will ONLY be available as Downloads"! Obviously, you have finally got it!!! Please
don't be stupid in not realizing it. If everyone is finally through tripping over their own feet, I will make this my last response. Dog pile with a whole new set of
distorted responses- all bets are off! Ball is in your
corner if you never want to see me on this Thread again.
Do you guys just like digging up corpses so you can torture them? GROW UP!!!

The point was that Chadeffect said a mouthful, when he
said "It is the Music that matters". I believe the
Studios refer to DXD as the Format that is higher sampling
Rate than DSD. Most Music is still stored on Master Analog
tape, which are deteriorating. DXD is a process of transfering these to multi-track mixing console in DXD
higher sampling format. They can then be Remastered using
the DXD process. That doesn't mean upsampling, or downsampling. That means Remastering in the digital domain
in each track of DXD. "I can't imagine Pro's using anything
less...."? ??? DXD is higher sampling rate than 24/192, it is even higher than DSD. They would have to downsample it
to 24/192, or DSD. Not only is DXD a higher sampling rate,
it is used as higher sampling rate for multi-tracks.
As far as wandering diatribe, "It is the Music that matters" counts far more than "Soon all new Music will only be available as Music Downloads". High Quality sounding Music "Matters" more with multi-Formats as opposed to just one. All Formats suffer from badly recorded Music, and many benefit from well recorded Music. Remastering can help, but no guarantee it will sound better, if not worse. In this regard some might prefer the untainted version in its original Format. You lose this access converting to strictly Downloading Format only. Take the best of CD, SACD, MLP, DVD-Audio, Vinyl, and yes Computer Audio Downloads, as well as High Res. Downloads. Every Format is going to have more than its share of screw-ups. Take the cream of the crop from each Format, instead of just exclusively one. You will have a hell of allot more cream that way. That is how you make "Music that Matters". You are throwing out the baby with the bathwater in severely limiting yourself to only one possible source (Format) of well recorded Music. It will be a whole lot less cream with a severely limited crop of only one Format. As far as large Music selection of well recorded Music, one man (Format) traveling band just wouldn't provide it. Only when you prove it otherwise (Way Larger
Selection) are you ready then to concider a single Format option. I sense a rush to panic in this rapid acceleration to a single Format option, without making sure that L-A-R-G-E Selection is available for everyone. Forcing many to lose their favorite Music does not serve "It is the Music that Matters". Couldn't be anymore clearer than that! There
seems to be alot of fear that as Computer Audio takes off,
it needs to be written in stone via the market eliminating
all other Audio Formats. What I don't get is this level of
insecurity. It makes me feel like I should be nervous about
Computer Audio- should I be? If you are really secure about this Format, other Formats being around shouldn't even be a concern. Why the huge concern? Do you understand the huge concern at the possible premature elimination of all other Audio Formats, and statements to the same? I prefer to keep my options open, and I stand up to those who
wish to eliminate my options. If this makes no sense
what-so-ever, so be it. Let it be!

Timlub- point well taken. It is not what you say, but how
you say it. "Soon all New Music will only be available as
Music Downloads" sounds like a dire warning. It screams
"Get rid of your SACD, MLP, DVD-Audio, Blue-Ray Audio, and
Vinyl. They will be gone. Your only access to New Music will be exclusively Music Downloads". "..Any Format that
has merit will stay"- doesn't quite jive with this. Selection in CD Resolution Music Downloads is certainly there. Selection in High Res. Music Downloads, is it there
to replace High Res. SACD/ MLP/ DVD-Audio/ and Blue-Ray
Audio? Is it there to replace Vinyl Selection? Do we lose
any Music Selection in switching over to "Soon all New Music will only be available as Music Downloads". To me
that is the most important part of "It is the Music that
Matters".
Not entirely sure that I got it right with DXD. I do
know that Sony Music has copied many of their Analog Master
Tapes to DSD. I do know that they are Remastering many of
these aging Music Releases in the digital domain. I am sure
that there will be mixed results. Not sure what the
Professional Studios are using these days for Recording.
I guess that the important thing is headroom. Having the
final Master of higher Resolution than the final copy,
Disk or Downloaded File. DXD will provide this since it is
stored as a File with many times more resolution at much
higher Sampling Rate. Live Recordings were made to Master
Analog Tape, I am certain the same will be done with New
Music in DXD- if it is not already being done. How will
limiting us to 24/192 Downloads eventually be affected by
DXD- I have no idea! I am pretty damn certain that the
Software for DXD will be really protected. How long that will last- I don't know! I did find a Studio here in
Seattle real close that uses DXD. I don't believe that it is the only one in the Country that uses it. I think that
the Motion Picture Industry is using DXD in Mastering their
Soundtracks- don't quote me on that. DXD could really take off in New Music Rcordings. New Music could certainly
benefit. Old Master Analog Recordings Remastered in DXD
might benefit based on how well it is Remastered. I
wouldn't necessarily chuck the Vinyl yet. I still think that high Sound Quality would thrive better if more variety in Formats is used- within reason. Reasonable
people can disagree.

And yet, Chadeffect, I am looking at High Res. Optical
Disks on "Elusive Disks". They are claimed to have been
Remastered at 32 Bits, and are claimed to be playable in
all CD Players. New Releases in Vinyl on harder material
180 Gram Records are springing up all over. Now if the
Sound Quality of these is even better than 24/192 High
Res. Downloads (Big if-plus there is possibility of DXD),
someone is going to want to know how they can get
32 Bit/ DXD Downloads. The heat is on High Res. Computer
Audio Downloads to compete in sound quality. THIS is
EXACTLY what I am talking about! The exact opposite would
be true in a single Audio Format of exclusive Music Audio
Downloads. A tide raises all boats. With competition we
stand to get more "Bang for the Buck" in Sound Quality.
Without it Sound Quality gets stuck in the mud. This would really be a bad business decision for the Consumer to
eliminate all of his options (Formats) in this Market. Bad Call- Bad Timing!!! Of course embraising this competition
puts more heat on Computer Manufacturers to cut into their
Profits to boost sound quality. They will be forced to come
up with a way to Download 32 Bit Releases, if not DXD. That
is going to cost them a pretty penny. They are not blind to this, a single Format (Downloading) being way more
Profitable for them without any other competing Format. Is
it out of profitable convenience for them to convince as
much of the American Public as possible that "No one is really interested in Higher Sound Quality". Is it really true, or just a "Profitable" Myth being perpetuated? I still hear rumors of the Major Picture Industry concidering
using DXD in their Soundtracks for their Movies. Finally,
there might be some real competition to get the ball rolling on sound quality!